F-35 vs F-16, but the F-16 carry drop tanks or not?

The F-35 compared with other modern jets.
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by qwe2008 » 05 May 2011, 13:53

it's said that,
an F-16, equiped with the most powerful engine--GE-129 or PW-229, has to use afterburner to catch up with an F-35A.
the F-35A, with much more fuel and 5,000 pound weapons internally, use military thrust only.

so in this speed and height region, F-35A's acceleration is better than F-16.
but if the F-16 carry drop tanks in the test, it's a very easy thing to do it.

who can tell me that F-16 carry drop tanks or not?
thanks.
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by qwe2008 » 05 May 2011, 14:01

in most times, an F-16 carry drop tanks.
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by geogen » 05 May 2011, 16:07

Probably, the actual performance results for each a/c under either Mil power or full, would be relative to the actual load-out being compared and other exact flight parameters being compared. For example, under an air defense acceleration test... perhaps a block 60 with CFT + 4 AAM and just punching it's wing tanks might out-accelerate an F-35A in Mil power at certain altitudes? Most likely, it would out-accelerate an F-35 to say mach 1.1 under Max power.

But this comparison begs the question .... let's now compare a next-gen F110-powered F-16XL, with 4 BVR AAM + 2 SR AAM + 10x 500lb bomb vs an F-35A with the same load-out. :D

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by sprstdlyscottsmn » 05 May 2011, 16:42

The excercise in question had the F-16 with a single centerline tank AFAIK.
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by wrightwing » 05 May 2011, 20:34

A clean F-16, with no EFT, with the 29-32.5k motor, in max AB, might out accelerate the F-35 briefly, till it hit Bingo fuel. No F-16 carrying a similar combat load out as an F-35, will out accelerate it.


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by uranus » 05 May 2011, 21:02

It doesn't matter what the lawn-dart's carrying for externals as long as the Slammers can reach the bandit(s)...


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by sprstdlyscottsmn » 06 May 2011, 15:01

@ wrightwing, seeing as how the test in question was an F-16 with centerline tank engaging the afterburner to keep up with AA-1 in a climb while carrying nine tons of internal load on Mil thrust, your point is not only brief and simplified, but perfectly relevant and applicable.
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by spazsinbad » 07 May 2011, 20:05

AF-6 Landing With Chase Photo Posted: 8 April 2011

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/gallery_ ... lery_id=44

"AF-6 comes in for a landing in its fourth flight with F-16 chase aircraft in tight formation on 7 April 2011. The pilot for the F-35A is Dan Canin. Photo by Carl Richards."

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by sprstdlyscottsmn » 08 May 2011, 18:50

well a viper does need two gas bags to do a long mission with a Lightning.
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