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This lady sounds like she has a personal grudge towards the F-22. Interesting video to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaoYz90g ... re=related

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Maddov? Yeah, she's a communist. What'd you expect? The program wasn't cancelled, just didn't buy what we needed.
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She would prefer for them to be scrapped.
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She fails, ignore her. I prefer this fool to be banished from our country, but then again, the F-22 isn't going to be a permanent loss.
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All that needs to be said is political agenda + factual inaccuracy = PROPAGANDA Confused
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From 25 years ago in Air Force Magazine-

http://www.airforce-magazine.com/Magazi ... media.aspx

It shows the media and military haven't gotten along in many years.
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Maddow saying the Constitution doesn't have a preamble:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy23DBJ4QKk

And making the same math mistake she criticizes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlG9pYufK0U

My point? Smug, polished and articulate crap is still just that: crap.
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That woman should die. She's a complete idiot.



I would agree as long as all her communist friends go with her.
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The lady is dumb and will quote any shithead that supports her claim. Fact is a nousence that can be hidden from the public. I have several english colliges hat claim the F-22 and F-35 to be sh*t because the Eurofighter supposidly shot one F-22 down at a Red Flag. How many Eurofighters died in the same engagement they didn't know, and didn't care.

The airforce can keep the true quality of the F-22 hidden for all eternity. They are not going to sell it to anybody so there is no reason to claim any performance from if. Data from Red Flag exercises will prove it's worth well enough.
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I'd wager to say that the main cause for killing the F-22 was the political agenda of Gates and others. Who knows maybe even LM was interested to see the Raptor die in order to keep the Lighning II going. The F-22 had/has its trouble and offers limited value to the fighting forces in any conflict bare an all out war with a (rising or want to be) major super power like China or Russia for example. For the majority of conflicts the number of F-22s is more than sufficient or need even required at all. It's just to expensive and inflexible.
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I turned this off after she stated the F-22 couldn't communicate with any other plane. Lol, even wikipedia could help this moron.

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jacarlsen wrote:
The lady is dumb and will quote any shithead that supports her claim. Fact is a nousence that can be hidden from the public. I have several english colliges hat claim the F-22 and F-35 to be sh*t because the Eurofighter supposidly shot one F-22 down at a Red Flag. How many Eurofighters died in the same engagement they didn't know, and didn't care.



What the loonies in the Eurofighter camp claim is simply a made up story to make them feel good and allow for nationalistic "Brits are best"/"Europe is best" tripe.
(You really wouldn't believe the superiority complex some Brits have, its really shocking and sad, I swear its in our genes or something. Many a time have I heard fellow Brits claim our carriers are the most capable in the world and the Typhoon is the number one fighter. Even stranger is the way many still believe the Vulcan bomber to be the cutting edge of airpower too, believe it or not but i've heard many claim it is stealthier and superior to the B-2)
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That would make me smile as Kevin1811 says on his CODMW2 & CODBO videos when he messes with other players. Very Happy



Try changing your clan tag to [OBMA] next time you play. It irritates the crap out of other players so much that they can't focus on the game, giving you the upper hand.
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Sorry if it's off topic, but found this video of the many accomplishments of the F-22 CTF at Edwards AFB.
It's from 2008, but it's very nice to watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFCnhIM1lQY
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shep1978 wrote:
jacarlsen wrote:
The lady is dumb and will quote any shithead that supports her claim. Fact is a nousence that can be hidden from the public. I have several english colliges hat claim the F-22 and F-35 to be sh*t because the Eurofighter supposidly shot one F-22 down at a Red Flag. How many Eurofighters died in the same engagement they didn't know, and didn't care.



What the loonies in the Eurofighter camp claim is simply a made up story to make them feel good and allow for nationalistic "Brits are best"/"Europe is best" tripe.
(You really wouldn't believe the superiority complex some Brits have, its really shocking and sad, I swear its in our genes or something. Many a time have I heard fellow Brits claim our carriers are the most capable in the world and the Typhoon is the number one fighter. Even stranger is the way many still believe the Vulcan bomber to be the cutting edge of airpower too, believe it or not but i've heard many claim it is stealthier and superior to the B-2)

Bad enough
Theres still trolls, even on youtube who think the F-22 still has flaws, believe the F-22 can't remain stealthy when wet ( LMAO ), think the media always tells the truth about this even when the info is out of date and pure bs and actually I even read and made comments on one idiot that believe the RAFALE is better than the F-22 and has and advance ( LMAO ) RADAR that can detect this aircraft.
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