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PostPosted: Jan 12, 2011 - 11:14 PM Reply with quote Back to top
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JHMCS has been widely exported for new Block 40+ aircraft. Has anybody heard about JHMCS on Block 30 or older aircraft? I'm trying to figure why US ANG would go with Raytheon's new Scorpion HMD over JHMCS.

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Maybe it's for the same reason the ANG stuck with the Litening targeting pod and the active AF used the Lantirn/Sniper pods. My only guess is that it's a funding thing.
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From what I'm hearing, the Scorpion is actually a better helmet - color, much lower cost, and has night capability. All of which the JHMCS doesn't have. As the $100,000 JHMCS begins to wear out, there's rumor that Scorpion may get looked at for Bl 40 & 50 too. It would allow the NVG bin to go away and supposedly is cheaper than replacing JHMCS parts. The Block 30 and the A-10C are supposed to get the Scorpion. (At least that the truth as I understand it.)

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Sounds like an awesome helmet. I heard Block 30/32 Vipers started getting a color moving map displays as well. Sounds like they might be around for some time to come. Next upgrade should be the APG-80 or SABR in the nose.
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F-16s modified to M3 have JHMCS. These are originally Block 1 through 15 airframes
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To the avionic nuts, will the main computers usually be upgraded on a fighter when AESA is fitted? I have a hard time believing that primitive computer power of the 70-80s can deal with everything going on in a modern glass cockpit and FBW-EW.
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I think the AESA has its own computer (and cooling system for that matter) to plug right into current interfaces. From what I understand, it relieves the MMC or FCC from the higher workload.

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Thankyou. I have always wondered. I know post 80's have some power to spare but.
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chrisrt wrote:
I have a hard time believing that primitive computer power of the 70-80s can deal with everything going on in a modern glass cockpit and FBW-EW.
And you'd be right. Which is why, regardless of the workload, you'll prolly never see an AESA retrofitted to a jet that hasn't been CCIP'd or MLU'd first.

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