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 Posted: Oct 17, 2010 - 08:16 PM
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Even the american fabricated F-16s weren't engaged in the exercise, some F-16C/CJs(block30 and 40 assemblyed by turkey) participated against PLAAF flankers. It is said that both sides managed some BVR kills, but when F-16s were closing in, the flankers were surprised by the agility and the sustain turn rate of falcons. They can survive no more than 2 minutes before F-16s got on their six.
My friends transmitted these photos to me via msn, so I don't even know the source either. |
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Posted: Oct 17, 2010 - 11:28 PM
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Nothing like a good slow fight down low.
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gta4
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Posted: Oct 18, 2010 - 06:26 AM
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| Anothe hud view of the lock |
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Posted: Oct 18, 2010 - 10:50 AM
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are you sure this are from Viper HUDs?
thougt Turkey exercised just with F4 
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"To the best of our knowledge, U.S.-made F-16s were not involved in the exercise," Parker said. She referred a caller to the Turkish government for details of the maneuvers.
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/i ... 08?sp=true |
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kingflanker
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Posted: Oct 18, 2010 - 03:03 PM
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Is that convenient for you to throw light on the source for these photos you posted above.Usually they are not supposed to be released to the public so early.  |
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Posted: Oct 19, 2010 - 08:19 AM
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Posted: Oct 19, 2010 - 04:03 PM
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Are these pics snagged from Turkish Air Force's F-16? We knew that USAF also has several Su-27s or certainly are able to borrow some Su-27s.
On the other hand, is this time a chance for PLAAF applying more budget of their next generation fighter by fall in F-16's locker purposely?
Even years ago, USAF F-15 lost that confrontation with Su-27 deliberately, India didn't unveil their UHD pix of the F-15 locked in. |
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Posted: Oct 20, 2010 - 07:29 AM
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Posted: Oct 20, 2010 - 09:36 AM
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81915 wrote:
False news
image from this video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry3HQQvIUjI
F-16 vs Mig 29
Yeah! u got him bro!
His third pic "lock27-4.jpg" was cut form 1:53 of this video!
lol why is this loser (or his “friend"  ) fake all these?
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Posted: Oct 20, 2010 - 09:52 AM
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Even the american fabricated F-16s weren't engaged in the exercise, some F-16C/CJs(block30 and 40 assemblyed by turkey) participated against PLAAF flankers. It is said that both sides managed some BVR kills, but when F-16s were closing in, the flankers were surprised by the agility and the sustain turn rate of falcons. They can survive no more than 2 minutes before F-16s got on their six.
My friends transmitted these photos to me via msn, so I don't even know the source either.
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81915 wrote:
False news
image from this video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry3HQQvIUjI
F-16 vs Mig 29
Yeah! u got him bro!Laughing
His third pic "lock27-4.jpg" was cut form 1:53 of this video!
lol why is this loser (or his “friend" Wink ) fake all these?
What for?
Wow sounds like a good story! What else did ur "friend" told u? Mr.Gta4?
We want to hear more about how "chinese flankers got busted"!  |
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Posted: Oct 20, 2010 - 02:14 PM
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| Looks similar, but I wouldn't be to sure about this. At least the first 2 HUD shots in this thread look like a Su-27. The sleeker front, wing and tail planes planform look different to those of the MiG-29 and in that video you can usually recognise the MiG-29 quite well. |
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Posted: Oct 29, 2010 - 06:50 AM
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| The Su-27 isn't more maneuverable than the MiG-29, I doubt the outcome in such a dogfight would be different depending on if the aircraft was a Su-27 or MiG-29. BVR may be another matter. |
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Posted: Nov 27, 2010 - 08:37 PM
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I think the Su-27s have a lower wing loading and higher T/W ratio than the MiG-29s
And the Sukhoi has a lower wing loading than the F-16 block 30, but the F-16 might have a better thrust to weight.
But there's a big fudge factor there as that number depends on how much fuel the Su-27 has and missile load (up to 10 IR and RH missiles). |
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gunzo
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Posted: Mar 09, 2011 - 05:59 AM
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only know of 2 countries that fought the Sukhois .. and its the seriously potent MKIs of the IAF
the viper was dead meat in less than 1 turn .. |
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