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thg
PostPosted: Aug 22, 2010 - 11:47 PM Reply with quote Back to top
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Sorry for the bad news, but US Navy will fly Super Hornet for many years. Smile


http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Sup ... #more-6392

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The MYP-II contract ran from 2005-2009, and was not renewed because the Pentagon intended to focus on the F-35 fighter program. When it became clear that the F-35 program was going to be late, and had serious program and budgetary issues, pressure built to abandon year-by-year contracting, and negotiate another multi-year deal for the current Super Hornet family. That deal is now in the works.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't this REALLY old news? I feel like we knew that the Navy had approved another MYP ages ago....
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HaveVoid, yes it is old news but the deal has not been finalised according to the post (by 'thg') above:

Super Hornet Fighter Family MYP-III: 2010-2013 Contracts 22-Aug-2010

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Sup ... #more-6392

"...That deal is now in the works. We will be using this entry to cover the Super Hornet MYP-III program’s budgets, and this article has been updated to include all announced contracts and events likely to be connected with MYP-III, including engines. It will remain free-to-view, until the MYP contract is finalized....

...In order to qualify for a multi-year deal, however, any proposed buy must first meet several legislative criteria. In My 2010, the Pentagon certified that a Super Hornet family MYP-III would meet those criteria, paving the way for an eventual contract.

At present, no MYP-III contract has been signed. Doing so requires congressional approval, followed by a negotiated contract.

Once a contract is signed, however, it’s important to understand how fighters are bought, in order to avoid being misled by MYP contract figures. The $8.56 billion MYP-II contract covered only the airframes, which are used by the Super Hornet and Growler programs alike. Engines, radars, jamming devices, and other equipment will be installed under the contract, but they are often specified, designed, and paid for under separate contracts, as “government furnished equipment.” This drives the final cost of fielding operational fighters much higher than any initial MYP contract would suggest...."

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Yes, I just saw that. Do we really tink that this might not get aproved?
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HaveVoid? The Super Hornets not approved? Seems like it is a formality and not a glitch as 'thg' thinks. Go here for some relevant old news:

US Navy Shoot's Down Rumors that they are soft of the F-35C!

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-14072.html

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Not bad news IMO. Just a practical decision to address the need for more platforms until the F-35 is available.
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My sarcasm didn't convey well. I think it's pretty clear that the SH is a good idea for the Navy right now. And how is the Navy getting more SH's bad news? Nowhere has it said that there will be a corresponding F-35 cut. Personally, I look forward to hopefully seein some of the local squadrons here in Virginia flying new Super Hornets. Might start making up for the F-15C's that I'm gonna start missing Sad
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thg wrote:
Sorry for the bad news, but US Navy will fly Super Hornet for many years. Smile


In other big news, US Army has confirmed it will be operating it's M1 Abrams for many years to come...

Move along, nothing to see here...

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popcorn wrote:
Not bad news IMO. Just a practical decision to address the need for more platforms until the F-35 is available.


Bad news for Lockheed Martin fanboys that the F-35 program is going to be late, and has serious program and budgetary issues.
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But... it's a known fact that it's late by a few years. That's not a surprise and while it's disappointing, it's not the end of the world that it's a few years behind planned. As the article apparently points out, there will be plenty of Super Hornets to fill the gap until it does arrive.
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How is this in any way news(much less bad news)? Was anyone under the impression that Super Hornets were not going to be flying for many years?
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In related news, the Air Force is considering purchasing additional F-15/16s.
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thg wrote:
Bad news for Lockheed Martin fanboys that the F-35 program is going to be late, and has serious program and budgetary issues.


1. The program "IS" late, Sad 2. Budget/ "fixed price" issues are being resolved, as of current negotiations for LRIP 4. Shocked 3. Both A and C versions are ahead of current test schedules, and these are the large majority of the JSF buy. Very Happy 4. B versions are having reliability issues with small parts in the SDD test fleet. These may impact schedule for certification of VL on ships, and behind in current schedule. Wink Last but not least, "Sea" Lightnings are not replacing F/A-18E/F/G. Both planes are cued into the fleet plans for the future. All legacy a/c are not disappearing "overnite" with the deployment of the JSF fleet. Even the big pockets of "Uncle Sam" cannot cash that check. Missles and bombs have to be hauled to the fight and legacy and upgraded legacy a/c will make their contribution to the effort. The taxpayer "must" get our pound of flesh. Twisted Evil
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