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Last edited by jam2009 on Aug 10, 2010 - 03:02 PM; edited 1 time in total

Anybody has some more info about this?

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc.aspx?DocsI ... ;NodesID=5

looks like Russians are training with F-22 over Alaska...

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translation from Russian:

The idea of the exercises Vigilant Eagle ("Sharp Eagle") was born in the early 2000's. Put it into practice assumed in 2008. However, because of the war in Georgia, Washington canceled the exercises. On the harmonization of the new plan took two years. In a scenario civilian airliner, whose role is performed Gulfstream IV, departed yesterday from Anchorage Airport in Alaska, and after a while the crew gave a coded signal 5475, indicating the capture of an aircraft. In addition to civilian dispatchers in alarm took to the joint command of the North American aerospace defense (NORAD). As a result, within ten minutes hijacked airliner was escorted by two fighter F-22 Raptor. In addition, the air was raised AEW E-3 Sentry.

According to legend, the exercises, the U.S. Air Force fighter jets and ground services were trying to communicate in a hijacked plane. However, the "terrorists", whose role on board the Gulfstream performed officers of Russian, American and Canadian Air Force, calls not answered, heading towards Russia. Later F-22 went on air bases, and support of Gulfstream was laid on the shoulders of the crew of the E-3 and ground controllers NORAD. Two hours later, when the hijacked plane was over the Pacific Ocean, NORAD transferred to the Russian Air Force. And Gulfstream turn accompanied by Su-27SM and MiG-31, which leads AEW A-50, and then put him in one of the airfields. Today, Gulfstream will go to Alaska and all again in reverse order.

"We want to evaluate all possible cases, which may require the use of jet fighters," - said yesterday NORAD spokesman Maj. Michael Humphreys. According to him, one of those cases - the plane's hijacking by terrorists. It also was working off and on appropriate notification procedures in case terrorists hijack a plane would prefer to make a terrorist attack outside the national territory, where the seizure occurred.

Experts skeptical about the doctrine Vigilant Eagle. "Such notification procedures should be implemented at the highest level, such as a hotline between the FBI and the FSB, or between the Russian General Staff and the Joint Chiefs of Staff U.S. Armed Forces - said" L "military expert, chief editor of" National Defense "Igor Korotchenko. - It is evident that after the events of 11 September as the U.S. and Russia still have almost no alternative way to respond to such seizures - to shoot down such planes, if you can not plant them by force. "

However, the military indicate that it is only the first experience of mining cooperation. "Terrorism goes beyond national borders - said yesterday the deputy commander of the Alaskan NORAD Sector Air Force Colonel Todd Balfe Canada (he, along with Air Force Colonel Minister Alexander Vasiliev himself flew on board the intercepted Gulfstream, watching the action fighter portholes) .- We should work with neighbors, and in the future we hope to build. However, until the full trust between the parties of speech does not go. At least on the basis of the U.S. Air Force Elmendorf (Alaska) Russian representatives who observed the exercises from the land, denied access to the room of situational analysis.
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so it looks like antiterrorist excercise...

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-14410.html

^this

the F-22's and Su-27's never came near each other, they just escorted the same jet at different times during a day.

Russian are actually clever guys. They study and test the real RCS of F-22 doing "escorted". So using the data that the collect they can compare and test theirs radar capabilities like new Su-25 AESA radar. Somewhere I heard that the real RCS of F-22 is actually [Link pending approval] but I don't believe that actually is true. I believe the Americans are focuses to reduce RCS and the Russian are focuses to create radar that are capable to detect as far as possible aircraft's with low RCS. Who's theory is the best, I don't know maybe after sometime we will know. But we should why care about this? I hope this big guys (super power - G Cool

stop produce weapons and start produce the necessary needs for the people of this planet. I hope one day all the nations are unite for a good [Link pending approval]

kagiannoulis wrote:

Russian are actually clever guys. They study and test the real RCS of F-22 doing "escorted". So using the data that the collect they can compare and test theirs radar capabilities like new Su-25 AESA radar. Somewhere I heard that the real RCS of F-22 is actually 0.3 but I don't believe that actually is true. I believe the Americans are focuses to reduce RCS and the Russian are focuses to create radar that are capable to detect as far as possible aircraft's with low RCS. Who's theory is the best, I don't know maybe after sometime we will know. But we should why care about this? I hope this big guys (super power - G Cool

stop produce weapons and start produce the necessary needs for the people of this planet. I hope one day all the nations are unite for a good scope..

Rooskies can squirt it with RADAR all they want. Ain't gonna find nothing out with wing tanks on there.

And radar return enhancer likely deployed.

From the F-22 & SU-27 OP (all showing radar enhancer deployed):

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/08/ ... ry-drills/

From Bear intercept:

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Raptors and Su27 training over Alaska?