Forum: F-35 Lightning II

It may have a lower G rating than the A variant, but isn't the F=35C the most maneuverable variant due to its larger wing. Is this correct?

Hmmmm: The Russians are not idiots whereas anyone else are idiots? ?

It was that sort of thinking that prevailed when the F-35 was conceived. "It will be 20-30 years before the Russians or anybody can come up with anything better or equal to the F-35 concept. It will take the Chinese 40 years if ever."

Read what I wrote - don't twist it!
I never said everyone were idiots. It is those who considered the Russian aircraft industry and there scientists and engineers etc. were finished and far behind and those who continually infer the Russians [are idiots] that annoy me. Time and again over the last 70 years they have proved otherwise starting in WW2. It was that sort of thinking that prevailed when the F-35 was conceived. "It will be 20-30 years before the Russians or anybody can come up with anything better or equal to the F-35 concept. It will take the Chinese 40 years if ever." They made a big mistake. [Those who thought this and continue to think this are the real Idiots?] Thats why we ended up with the concept - one good all-round stealth multirole Fighter, Bomb Truck, Naval Version, Ground Support and VTOL all based on basically the same airframe will be good enough to match anyting those 'idiots" can afford to come up with for 20-30 years. It now appears the F-35 builders have almost achieved this very difficult task except the B version which is delayed. [A great achievement .] The question now is - will it be good enough in light of other aircraft available or soon to be available ? The Indians obviously think the 4++ Russian and now Pak -Fa is the best way to go. They have waited many years before committing and obviously don't want the F-35. They have been offered everything except the Raptor. The Chinese are now obviously determined to develop there own aircraft. How far away they are from a true 5th Gen is hard to know but they must not be under-estimated either. [Thought of as idiots.] Maybe the Russians will not sell the the T-50 to them? India would not like that. I am Australian - the F-35 is not the ideal plane for us but there is nothing else remotely suitable so we take the F-35. On paper a mix of Russian SU-34 and SU35 or T-50 look ideal for us. If we are ever threatened that is probably what we will be up against but we need to have something in common with our main ally - the USA. [Big Brother]. I admire European aircraft but they are not really suited for a large country like Australia. A mixture of European Fighter and our Super Hornets maybe but none of them approach 5Gen. The simple fact is the F-35 will do just about anything but will it do it well enough when we look at what it will be up against in the next 20 years. First of all we have to get the thing - that is proving a long drawn out saga. In my mind the only real idiots are those who came up with the F-35 concept based on the assumption others were idiots.

i agree with what you say. i to am an aussie and a mix of sukhois would most certainly give us air superiority in the region, but we need to have commonlality with the usa. but then i think that the we should probably instead of the f-35 ask for the f-22 (eveb though i hate that plane with a passion) as this is the most logical solution. and i mean, really, what are we going to do thats bad with the f-22? we're one of the usas closest allies.

It may have a lower G rating than the A variant, but isn't the F=35C the most maneuverable variant due to its larger wing. Is this correct?

i agree with what you say. i to am an aussie and a mix of sukhois would most certainly give us air superiority in the region, but we need to have commonlality with the usa. but then i think that the we should probably instead of the f-35 ask for the f-22 (eveb though i hate that plane with a passion) as this is the most logical solution. and i mean, really, what are we going to do thats bad with the f-22? we're one of the usas closest allies.