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falcon17
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Posted: Feb 01, 2012 - 11:48 PM
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Location: Orlando
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| Has it become easier to maintain and more reliable over time? |
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Posted: May 22, 2013 - 10:35 AM
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That_Engine_Guy
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Posted: Feb 02, 2012 - 04:38 AM
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Everything does.
Ask a trucking firm, or tour bus operator; commercial airlines are the same... Look at the hurtles the 747 needed to overcome to become the success it is today...
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_________________ [Airplanes are] near perfect, all they lack is the ability to forgive.
— Richard Collins
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BDF
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Posted: Feb 03, 2012 - 12:30 AM
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| It sounds to me that right now the jet just isn't meeting it's expected mature mission capable rates. Hopefully things will improve, especially with the help of those new LO panels the LO shop at langley made during the stand down. We haven't heard much about this issue in a while. |
_________________ When it comes to fighting Raptors, "We die wholesale..."
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aaam
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Posted: Feb 23, 2012 - 04:22 AM
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Joined: Aug 21, 2010 - 11:52 PM
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| Can't figure out how to totally delete a post, so please excuse this sentence. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2012 - 05:52 AM
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| With only 187 copies, I doubt it will ever be *easy* to maintain a usable number that's ready to fly. |
_________________ The sky is blue because God loves the Infantry.
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aaam
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Posted: Feb 25, 2012 - 02:11 AM
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F-22 so far seems to be requiring lots more maintenance than was expected. One of the bigger problems seems to be the skin itself and another is corrosion. Some of the very things set in place to give it it's superb stealth have also come back to bite . For example, the drainage designed to maximize stealth does that, but at the price of not doing that good a job of draining water. A long term solution seems to be to replace the skin with the newer technology design of the F-35 (which was always intended to operate at all times in the "normal" world), but that'll take a while. In the nearer term they are going to use F-35 software to keep track of the panels.
They've also got to be looking at other maintenance issues. Long before the ridiculous cutback in production numbers AF was having to confront the problem of suppliers saying the F-22 market just wasn't big enough for them to continue to put up with the hassles of selling to the government, and while some of the majors have started dealing with them and contracting with them directly and then with the gov't, that's getting expensive. Plus, some of the more "techier" suppliers are just not that interested in this kind of business. For example over 85% of Raptors use 25MHz processors. In a world of 4G hz six core processor chips, it's getting hard to find support. The solution might be to replace these obsolete systems with open architecture ones, ala the F-35, but that'll take a bunch of money upfront, something hard to explain to the short-attention-span politicos in DC.
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