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Posted on USAToday.com on 08JAN.

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Tucson airport to host training of foreign fighter pilots

PHOENIX (AP) — Sen. John McCain says Singapore has decided to train its F-16 pilots at Tucson International Airport.

The senator said on Thursday that the training of the foreign pilots strengthens the Arizona Air National Guard's reputation as the premier location for training international fighter pilots.

McCain says the move will bring $60 million into Tucson's economy and notes that he strongly supported the decision to train the foreign pilots in Tucson.


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Has anyone in the Tucson area heard any details? Is this the a different contract than the one already in place at Luke?

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This article confirms Luke but also mentions Springfield Ohio?

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i= ... &s=ASI

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So Singapore is moving from Luke to Tuscon then for their training?

Sounds like Luke is moving closer to F-35 base than have been seen so far.

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That_Engine_Guy wrote:
This article confirms Luke but also mentions Springfield Ohio?

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i= ... &s=ASI

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The article was published last September. Maybe it got changed to Tucson since then? Shrug What Boman suggested regarding the F-35 sounds plausible. Didn't know Springfield was even in the running, although they probably would have most of the assets to support Block 52 in place since the KLu arrived there. They'd need to add a -229 engine shop tho.

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The article said.. "a $250 million deal with Singapore to continue the Continental United States (CONUS) pilot proficiency training program for the Singapore Peace Carvin program at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz.; and a $75 million CONUS program at Springfield Air National Guard Base, Ohio, where the Singapore Air Force will lease U.S. Air Force F-16s."

I keyed on - to continue at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz AND at Springfield Air National Guard Base, Ohio.

Also note; where the Singapore Air Force will lease U.S. Air Force F-16s

Springfield is suppose to loose it's F-16 Block 30s.... "Leasing" USAF F-16s Singapore could obtain some Block 25s that Luke has "BRAC'd" to AMARC, and they could be used for training. (IE not USAF or ANG use, but for FMS there by still taking them off the inventory list.)

A little 'slight of hand' so to speak? Question

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From the local Springfield newspaper:

http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/news/ ... 78083.html

Springfield News-Sun wrote:

Singapore pilots not coming to local base
Potential new mission would have helped solidify hundreds of jobs


By Samantha Sommer, Staff Writer
Updated 8:37 PM Tuesday, January 5, 2010

SPRINGFIELD — Singapore won’t train its fighter pilots at the Springfield Air National Guard Base.

The Defense Security Cooperation Agency announced in September that Singapore was considering training here.

Rather it will send its students to Tucson, Ariz., to learn to fly F-16s, the Ohio Adjutant General’s Office learned Monday, Jan. 4.

Base personnel were told of the decision Tuesday.

The training costs between $900,000 and $1.2 million less per student in Tucson, said Mark Wayda, vice chief of staff of the Ohio National Guard.

“It really is purely economics,” he said.

The base faces a transition.

It has trained Dutch pilots since 2007. That contract expires this fall and negotiations continue on renewing it.

The U.S. pilot training mission will wrap up this fall after 10 years as part of the Base Realignment and Closure process. That mission has 150 full-time jobs tied to it. Without the Singapore mission, those positions are at risk, officials said.

The Air Force chief of staff is committed to finding the base a new mission, Wayda said.

“There has been a full effort by everybody to ensure that this base remains open, that the personnel there have the full-time positions,” he said.

A number of missions have been discussed and Wayda declined to specify what they could entail, although it may not involve flying.

“All of that is still up in the air,” he said.

The higher cost to train pilots in Springfield is largely due to two factors.

Several countries send students to Tucson and a U.S. mission is there as well. So the fixed costs — such as firefighters and runway operations — are shared by many users.

Singapore also would have had to lease jets in Springfield as the base is losing its F-16s.

U.S. Rep. Steve Austria said he was disappointed and would like to see a seamless transition to a new mission in Springfield, which he called a superior facility. About $65 million has been spent on upgrades there.

“The people who work there are very professional, talented, hard-working people who are dedicated, not just to the National Guard and the Air Force, but to our community,” said Austria, R-Beavercreek.

The base has about 450 full-time employees and 950 part-time guardsmen. It has transformed before, including from a fighting unit to training.

That track record should go a long way to securing a new mission, Base Commander Col. Mike Roberts said.

“They’ve proven to be very adaptable and done an outstanding job at whatever mission the Guard and the Air Force have handed to us,” he said.
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Hey james,

Good to see You here, too Wink

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