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Last week of of a 1 month leave too!

Crew Chief here at Luke just got orders to ROK, Osan AB.
Looking for information, first tour overseas.

1. 51st AMXS is that 16s? or A-10s? or Both? (please 16s)
2. What TDYs do they go on?
3. How's the weather? I heard they have the same as Pennsylvania (My home state)
4. How busy compared to Luke? (I know 12 hours everyday idc, but like do blk 40s break a lot compared to blk 25s?)
5. Do they deploy to Iraq (and now Afghanistan?)

Any answers would be awesome.

Thanx everyone! Very Happy
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1. 51st AMXS is that 16s? or A-10s? or Both? (please 16s)
2. What TDYs do they go on?
3. How's the weather? I heard they have the same as Pennsylvania (My home state)
4. How busy compared to Luke? (I know 12 hours everyday idc, but like do blk 40s break a lot compared to blk 25s?)
5. Do they deploy to Iraq (and now Afghanistan?)


Osan was my first assignment and I enjoyed "the land of not quite right" very much.
Here are my best answers.

1. Both F-16s and A-10s fly out of Osan.
2. As an A-10 Pilot, there were a few BALO TDYs along the border and some
to Japan for airshows. I'm not sure about MX.
3. Winters get pretty cold there and the summers are hot/humid. There are
quite a few cloudy days. I've never lived in Pennsylvania but the
weather is similar to the Midwest. My best guess is it is similar.
4. Not sure how well MX is manned there vs Luke. There are definitely fewer
aircraft and sorties flown vs Luke.
5. Back in 03, I didn't hear of any deployments. That may be different
now.

The camaraderie is nice there because everyone is so far from home.
Whenever you get the chance, make sure you travel while you're there.
There's lots to see.

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taans1 wrote:
Last week of of a 1 month leave too!

Crew Chief here at Luke just got orders to ROK, Osan AB.
Looking for information, first tour overseas.

1. 51st AMXS is that 16s? or A-10s? or Both? (please 16s)
2. What TDYs do they go on?
3. How's the weather? I heard they have the same as Pennsylvania (My home state)
4. How busy compared to Luke? (I know 12 hours everyday idc, but like do blk 40s break a lot compared to blk 25s?)
5. Do they deploy to Iraq (and now Afghanistan?)

Any answers would be awesome.

Thanx everyone! Very Happy


1. 36th(F-16) 25th(A-10) If you go to the 25th you wont be the only 16 guy.

2. Different places around PACAF. All of them with good times to be had.

3. You def get all four seasons with LOTS of fog in the fall and late winter. Gets really cold in the winter.

4.The jets break just as much. Don't let the younger age fool ya! Say good bye to 2 go days and hello to 3-4 go days, excercises, and nightly reconfigs. 12 hrs is a good night. But when I worked the line there we were so busy that 13 hrs went bye like 7. When I first got there the role call seemed HUGE for swing shift till I saw how many jets we had and how much work we had.

5. Nope, the focus is to the north.

Good things about Osan:
HASes: I miss the privacy
GE motors: No one minute motoring B4 start or scavenging on shutdown.
No Lukeisms: QA isnt going to write you up for hanging your comm cord on the static discharger.
Hot Pits: Just hope your jet doesn't come back.
200+ bars outside the gate: You'll have the best times you wont remember till your friends tell u bout the fat juicy you took home.

Bad things bout Osan:
HASes: They are so far from support, expeditors, and civilization
GE motors: They love oil, and that 10 hr flame sensor you whip comes back as a AB no light.
Osanisms: Not as bad as luke but that comm door you didnt close is a UCR(exposed cannon plugs)
Wide flying window: Nothing stretches out swings like coming in and launching last goes.
Living in the dorms: No BAS, hoping your roomate is clean, no A/C in the summer, no hot water or heat in the winter.


But man I miss that place. Have fun.

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AMXS is both. 36FS is 16's, 25FS is the A-10's.

36th does go to Singapore, but not every year. They also go to Red Flag in Alaska and every couple years they go to WSEP in Florida... but don't get your hopes up, the primary mission is Korea and off peninsula deployments are rare - out of PACAF deployments even more so.

Summer Hot/humid and they have monsoons around june/july. Winter - I've seen 20 below wind chills, I've seen jets taxi with "zero" snow on the ground - then be turned back from EOR because 3 inches fell in 20 minutes.

I am sorry to say that you will pull alot of hours in either unit. Unfortunately these jets are "owned" by a DCC/ADCC for less than 12 months at a time - read that as you will. Expect an excercise every quarter.
You will fly less sorties than Luke

You will not deploy - you will already be in a war zone. Korea is a "Cease Fire". Thats why you're going there. Check out FOX news for the past 6 months and you'll understand.

I worked in the MXG staff from 2002 thru 2004. Message me and I can answer just about anything you want. I can also give plenty of advice for how to make it a good tour. Been to Osan multiple times like many others on this site.

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and one big piece of advice. Don't turn down those orders.... if you do, you will get a set to Kunsan within 3 months!

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TimmayMan wrote:
taans1 wrote:
Last week of of a 1 month leave too!

Crew Chief here at Luke just got orders to ROK, Osan AB.
Looking for information, first tour overseas.

1. 51st AMXS is that 16s? or A-10s? or Both? (please 16s)
2. What TDYs do they go on?
3. How's the weather? I heard they have the same as Pennsylvania (My home state)
4. How busy compared to Luke? (I know 12 hours everyday idc, but like do blk 40s break a lot compared to blk 25s?)
5. Do they deploy to Iraq (and now Afghanistan?)

Any answers would be awesome.

Thanx everyone! Very Happy


1. 36th(F-16) 25th(A-10) If you go to the 25th you wont be the only 16 guy.

2. Different places around PACAF. All of them with good times to be had.

3. You def get all four seasons with LOTS of fog in the fall and late winter. Gets really cold in the winter.

4.The jets break just as much. Don't let the younger age fool ya! Say good bye to 2 go days and hello to 3-4 go days, excercises, and nightly reconfigs. 12 hrs is a good night. But when I worked the line there we were so busy that 13 hrs went bye like 7. When I first got there the role call seemed HUGE for swing shift till I saw how many jets we had and how much work we had.

5. Nope, the focus is to the north.

Good things about Osan:
HASes: I miss the privacy
GE motors: No one minute motoring B4 start or scavenging on shutdown.
No Lukeisms: QA isnt going to write you up for hanging your comm cord on the static discharger.
Hot Pits: Just hope your jet doesn't come back.
200+ bars outside the gate: You'll have the best times you wont remember till your friends tell u bout the fat juicy you took home.

Bad things bout Osan:
HASes: They are so far from support, expeditors, and civilization
GE motors: They love oil, and that 10 hr flame sensor you whip comes back as a AB no light.
Osanisms: Not as bad as luke but that comm door you didnt close is a UCR(exposed cannon plugs)
Wide flying window: Nothing stretches out swings like coming in and launching last goes.
Living in the dorms: No BAS, hoping your roomate is clean, no A/C in the summer, no hot water or heat in the winter.


But man I miss that place. Have fun.


hey dude not to diss anyone else, because some1 always know's more than someone else. i feel this is the best so far thanx man., please keep coming with responses... you all rock thanx!!
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TimmayMan wrote:
taans1 wrote:
Last week of of a 1 month leave too!

Crew Chief here at Luke just got orders to ROK, Osan AB.
Looking for information, first tour overseas.

1. 51st AMXS is that 16s? or A-10s? or Both? (please 16s)
2. What TDYs do they go on?
3. How's the weather? I heard they have the same as Pennsylvania (My home state)
4. How busy compared to Luke? (I know 12 hours everyday idc, but like do blk 40s break a lot compared to blk 25s?)
5. Do they deploy to Iraq (and now Afghanistan?)

Any answers would be awesome.

Thanx everyone! Very Happy


1. 36th(F-16) 25th(A-10) If you go to the 25th you wont be the only 16 guy.

2. Different places around PACAF. All of them with good times to be had.

3. You def get all four seasons with LOTS of fog in the fall and late winter. Gets really cold in the winter.

4.The jets break just as much. Don't let the younger age fool ya! Say good bye to 2 go days and hello to 3-4 go days, excercises, and nightly reconfigs. 12 hrs is a good night. But when I worked the line there we were so busy that 13 hrs went bye like 7. When I first got there the role call seemed HUGE for swing shift till I saw how many jets we had and how much work we had.

5. Nope, the focus is to the north.

Good things about Osan:
HASes: I miss the privacy
GE motors: No one minute motoring B4 start or scavenging on shutdown.
No Lukeisms: QA isnt going to write you up for hanging your comm cord on the static discharger.
Hot Pits: Just hope your jet doesn't come back.
200+ bars outside the gate: You'll have the best times you wont remember till your friends tell u bout the fat juicy you took home.

Bad things bout Osan:
HASes: They are so far from support, expeditors, and civilization
GE motors: They love oil, and that 10 hr flame sensor you whip comes back as a AB no light.
Osanisms: Not as bad as luke but that comm door you didnt close is a UCR(exposed cannon plugs)
Wide flying window: Nothing stretches out swings like coming in and launching last goes.
Living in the dorms: No BAS, hoping your roomate is clean, no A/C in the summer, no hot water or heat in the winter.


But man I miss that place. Have fun.


so wait it'd be a ucr with the comm open while it's broken down?
lol i'm only a a1c, i go for board in 2 weeks for BTZ, doubt i'd get it, so i still live in the dorms so i won't know what i'm missing with BAS. if i make SRA then i'm staying in the dorms anyways since i'm leaving in june....f it..
eh, man i grew up in the inner city in the northeast united states. no a/c and no heat during summer which is hot/humid and winter freezing cold is my natural environment! lol.
(i will have to adapt from arizona winters and summers though...i love arizona winters)
are GEs harder to replace oil? there's a harness in the PWs sometimes and the servicing hoses gets on my f-ing nerves sometimes.
i heard osan is the s***. i can't wait........
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Oh and prepare to cann up and cann down jets every week. There is no cann dock at osan. There is a Cann manager but everyone gets sucked in at least a lil bit. As a base osan may not fly as many sorties as luke but 36th vs any unit on luke; 36th will out fly them hands down. 3 goes a day and you be in for a shock if your expecting a 10 or 12 front. Surges and excersises, I would count maybe 4 to 6 hours at the most jets werent in the air. You'll get really good at manual pushbacks soon. One cool thing about hot pits is that specs do B man so all the cc has to do is hold the deadman switch and make sure the pilot is off, safe, or norm with the A/R door open. Honestly I enjoy excersises cause you know your working 12+1 with the alarm blue that always hits at shift change. If the jets in your cell are good then its pretty smooth sailing. GEs are wider and a bit tighter to stuff but not too bad. No annoying fuel strainer bolt on the right ventral or Oil pressure transmitter to forget about. There is so much I could tell you I could just go on and on.

Once again I miss that place. Its hard work on the line out there but you'll make some great friends and you'll have stories to tell after you've lived through it.

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Oil servicing on the GE is just as easy, but you will get tried of having to walk to the other side of the diamond to get an oil cart. At least they dont need a JOAP every flight. But you will have to R2 MCDs every flight. Just make sure you put it in straight and the packing isnt torn or you will have a rapidly growing puddle next eng start.

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Oil servicing on the GE is just as easy, but you will get tried of having to walk to the other side of the diamond to get an oil cart. At least they dont need a JOAP every flight. But you will have to R2 MCDs every flight. Just make sure you put it in straight and the packing isnt torn or you will have a rapidly growing puddle next eng start.


lol i check them "after" every bpo/pr... there's only one mcd on the GEs right? i heard GEs were tougher to put in, like the coke bottle is changed a bit right? i have to change the mcd? or just the packing? how often will need to check the joap? haha heard the line is HUGE.

i guess i will learn hot pitting soon lol. done a few manual pushbacks, but not steering it with the manual bar, I'm too skinny for that lmao.
my friend AND my supervisor both just came back from there so they can both help me out.

what's a surge exactly? lol i heard of them, but you know we don't do those here at luke lol.
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Great insight from the former Osan gang here -

Just to add a few things -

TDYs = depending on the schedule and exercise .. to Eielson or to Singapore and and a occasional DACT 4-6 ship detachment to Kadena vs F-15Cs. 7th Air Force units are AEF exempt.

Latest I heard was the Spangdalem AB in Germany goes down to one Block 50 squadron and sends them to the 36th... ie BRAC
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Siesta wrote:
Great insight from the former Osan gang here -

Just to add a few things -

TDYs = depending on the schedule and exercise .. to Eielson or to Singapore and and a occasional DACT 4-6 ship detachment to Kadena vs F-15Cs. 7th Air Force units are AEF exempt.

Latest I heard was the Spangdalem AB in Germany goes down to one Block 50 squadron and sends them to the 36th... ie BRAC


so korea is getting blk 50s?
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taans1 wrote:
Siesta wrote:
Great insight from the former Osan gang here -

Just to add a few things -

TDYs = depending on the schedule and exercise .. to Eielson or to Singapore and and a occasional DACT 4-6 ship detachment to Kadena vs F-15Cs. 7th Air Force units are AEF exempt.

Latest I heard was the Spangdalem AB in Germany goes down to one Block 50 squadron and sends them to the 36th... ie BRAC


so korea is getting blk 50s?


Yes from the latest BRAC indications one of the Spang Block 50 squadrons deactivates and sends their jets to Osan - or like in some sort of twisted shuffle like has been in the past they may send the jets stateside and the stateside base send theirs to Osan (in this case Shaw). I believe though the the Osan Block 50s will maintain a strike/CAS primary mission rather then going to a primary SEAD.
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Osan is awsome...the weather has been great....winter sucks though. Shifts are long, but you have nothing else to do but work and make fun of everything around you. Chem gear sucks...no doubt, but you'll be a pro by the time the summer rolls up again. The jets are all pretty much jacked up because of the humidity. If your avionics, have fun, if not...then you get to watch them come out and try and reset everything all the time. Engines are ...well.....you'll just have to come here and find out. see ya soon!!
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Osan is awsome...the weather has been great....winter sucks though. Shifts are long, but you have nothing else to do but work and make fun of everything around you. Chem gear sucks...no doubt, but you'll be a pro by the time the summer rolls up again. The jets are all pretty much jacked up because of the humidity. If your avionics, have fun, if not...then you get to watch them come out and try and reset everything all the time. Engines are ...well.....you'll just have to come here and find out. see ya soon!!


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