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Meathook
PostPosted: Jul 14, 2009 - 01:38 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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I know, America has gone crazy, our fore fathers are rolling over in their graves as they watch this madness we now call civilization and hype of the media and so called Celebs...shameful in my opinion

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Totally agree Meat. Yes, our country seems to have gone crazy (maybe just haven't noticed how crazy we've become in recent years) and short on memory (among other things)!

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I know, there are so many indicators, either we are becoming "numb" to it all or just saturated with it and we are in the overload mode letting it roll off hoping it does not stick, in any event..I am sadden by most of what I see, hear and read these days, even my President is scaring the crap out of me with his lop sided view of government

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Meathook wrote:
even my President is scaring the crap out of me with his lop sided view of government


Applause

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Meathook wrote:
even my President is scaring the crap out of me with his lop sided view of government


I've passed that and have entered the "US, it was fun while it lasted" zone. Mad

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that might be true too, so far the road we are headed down is dark, twisted and I see no light at the end of that tunnell, anybody got a portable GPS so we can find our way again - we need another Ronnie "Ray Gun" in my opinion

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I agree on the need for another Reagan, but nowadays, nobody in politics is intelligent enough to be that much of a realist. they're all lemmings. We are no longer a country of people governed by people, we are a country of lemmings run by lemmings....and folks, the cliff's approaching quick.

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I could not agree more...sad state of affairs indeed - brings me shame to see it and live it

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The real shame of the last election is in the future when a candidate says he's the change the country needs, the citizens are going to look at him, remember the last schmuck that said that and he'll end up losing the election.

This country needs change, but then again, we need gradual change. You simply CAN'T undo 230+ years of doing something in 8 years, and let's face it, this guy's ain't gettin' reelected!

I'm predicting Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny will have banner years in 2012!

Bugs 4 Prez!

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You simply CAN'T undo 230+ years of doing something in 8 years


Oh, but he'll try his damndest. Watch him!

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and let's face it, this guy's ain't gettin' reelected


As much as it pains me to say it, you wanna make a bet? There's been several times, when I've told myself one thing to try and make myself feel better, all the while, knowing good and hell well what was going to happen.

Obama is an absolute lock for 2012. You can believe that Sierra!

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That's the old American spirit, actively hope for failure, so someone else can take over and a completely different group of clowns can hope for their failure.

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Plus, all the folks living of the government are not going to want to work when they can live off the backs of others (welfare and government funded health care off the backs of those working hard to make a living honestly), hell'va life style I guess.

This sucks big time

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That's the old American spirit, actively hope for failure, so someone else can take over and a completely different group of clowns can hope for their failure.


I don't actively hope for the failure of America, and I'm sure TC doesn't either.

However, if things don't change, the American Dream WILL end...all great societies have withered to nothing, remember Rome and Egypt? Or Babylon and Greece? All great, and none are around in the grandeur they used to have.

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You simply CAN'T undo 230+ years of doing something in 8 years.......


His challenge will be to undo the LAST 8 years in 8 years.

I'm old, but I've only read about Greece, Egypt, Rome & Babylon; to be fair, I don't "remember" them.

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I'm old, but I've only read about Greece, Egypt, Rome & Babylon; to be fair, I don't "remember" them.


Basically, the bigger they are the harder they'll fall

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