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 Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 03:45 PM
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| Ok got a kinda dumb question on Aircraft U.S. Halon is the main source of killing a fire in the internal fuel cells. But if I remember right F-16 in U.S air space are not allowed to run it unless they Deployed or leaving for one right they run Nitrogen instead Im not sure been a long time since it ever came up so just looking for some info on it and a referance to like the EPA or something along those lines and thanks for the Help |
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Lurch
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Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 07:51 PM
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| Never heard putting nitrogen in the halon bottle, but I haven't crewed a f-16 in a long time. Times may have changed. |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 08:22 PM
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| Yea when not serivced with Halon we serviced it up with Nitrogen |
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Lurch
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Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 08:46 PM
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| Sciafer - When did this change????? just curious. |
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pomeroy
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Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 09:12 PM
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| I know at luke we use Nitrogen at least since 01 but if some one could find the reason we dont fly with Halon in the tank I know there is one just can't remember I think its a EPA issue but not sure and it should be in the Servicing T.O. |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 09:37 PM
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| We still fly with Halon on all of our tanks, both the portable ones and the ones on the engines. |
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Posted: Aug 13, 2009 - 09:47 PM
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Elliboom wrote:
We still fly with Halon on all of our tanks, both the portable ones and the ones on the engines.
"engines" is the clue here. In multi engine aircraft Halon is used as a fire extinguishing agent. In the F-16 its used as a fuel inerting agent. It inerts the fuel vapors, typically only used in a combat environment. Stateside there is no need for a fuel inerting system. It is a known ozone depleting substance. |
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Posted: Aug 14, 2009 - 03:19 AM
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| I left 16's in 07 to work on RPA's. We never had the halon bottle on the plane filled with halon or nit. They where filled if we where deployed. |
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Posted: Aug 14, 2009 - 03:23 AM
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| They put gaseous nitrogen in the bottle to cut down on corrosion. |
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Posted: Aug 14, 2009 - 04:54 AM
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pomeroy wrote:
Ok got a kinda dumb question on Aircraft U.S. Halon is the main source of killing a fire in the internal fuel cells. But if I remember right F-16 in U.S air space are not allowed to run it unless they Deployed or leaving for one right they run Nitrogen instead Im not sure been a long time since it ever came up so just looking for some info on it and a referance to like the EPA or something along those lines and thanks for the Help
Depends on the base, some use nit, others leave empty. All filled with halon when downrange |
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Posted: Aug 14, 2009 - 01:42 PM
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rupp05 wrote:
pomeroy wrote:
Ok got a kinda dumb question on Aircraft U.S. Halon is the main source of killing a fire in the internal fuel cells. But if I remember right F-16 in U.S air space are not allowed to run it unless they Deployed or leaving for one right they run Nitrogen instead Im not sure been a long time since it ever came up so just looking for some info on it and a referance to like the EPA or something along those lines and thanks for the Help
Depends on the base, some use nit, others leave empty. All filled with halon when downrange
Thanks Rupp dog....ya hit it on the head! |
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Posted: Aug 14, 2009 - 07:37 PM
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Nitrogen (clean, dry nitrogen) is used in the Halon bottle to keep it from corroding internally.
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Posted: Aug 14, 2009 - 08:51 PM
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| It is in the -6 for AM's .. 30day Halon servicing (NiT gets topped off). |
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Posted: Aug 15, 2009 - 06:57 AM
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Posted: Oct 08, 2009 - 05:44 AM
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| Lurch, it was about 1995 when the halon was replaced with nitro. on us soil. hope this helps some. |
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