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 Posted: Jun 18, 2009 - 10:11 PM
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Bad news :
no RAPTOR this year at "le Bourget" ...
I terribly wanted to see this fantastic bird ... 
and may be one day, a dogfight vs our RAFALE for a training mission !  |
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tbarlow
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 - 11:05 PM
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I guess they don't want the F-22 making the French look bad at
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 12:50 PM
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juve57 wrote:
Bad news :
no RAPTOR this year at "le Bourget" ...
I terribly wanted to see this fantastic bird ...
and may be one day, a dogfight vs our RAFALE for a training mission !
Sure, why not. F-22 pilots must be bored by now grinding eagles, vipers and hornets into hamburger.. a little french pate would be a nice change to the Raptor's diet  seriously, the more diverse the training opposition, the better. |
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 06:17 PM
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| I think it has something to do with the French being sneaky, snooping lil buggers |
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Posted: Jun 19, 2009 - 06:29 PM
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| The F-22 should show up anyway, undetected, for a fly by. What would be a greater selling point? If the bird could actually be sold. |
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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 - 01:52 AM
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I guess they don't want the F-22 making the French look bad at
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ROTFLMAO!!!! I dont know about that you do know the Rafale IS the second comming right?  |
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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 - 05:29 AM
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| No real need to display the Raptor at Paris. We're not selling the F-22 to anybody, so no potential customers would be there to see the Raptor fly. I've never been to the PAS, so, for example, I'm not sure whether we continued to send the A-10 after it was decided to end production with no FMS. |
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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 - 06:44 AM
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Wouldn't it nice to rub the Frogs nose in it a weee bit by having a 5 ship do a low level fly by with an Eagle on point flanked by 4 Raptors,and the only thing they see would be the Eagle ????
Unwin wrote - ROTFLMAO!!!! I dont know about that you do know the Rafale IS the second comming right?
Second Comming?? When was their FIRST??? |
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Kryptid
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Posted: Jun 20, 2009 - 07:14 AM
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Sure, why not. F-22 pilots must be bored by now grinding eagles, vipers and hornets into hamburger.. a little french pate would be a nice change to the Raptor's diet seriously, the more diverse the training opposition, the better.
Once the F-35 goes into producton, you could use it to really make the Raptor work for its "food" in DACT, huh? |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 05:22 AM
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popcorn wrote:
juve57 wrote:
Bad news :
no RAPTOR this year at "le Bourget" ...
I terribly wanted to see this fantastic bird ...
and may be one day, a dogfight vs our RAFALE for a training mission !
Sure, why not. F-22 pilots must be bored by now grinding eagles, vipers and hornets into hamburger.. a little french pate would be a nice change to the Raptor's diet seriously, the more diverse the training opposition, the better.
No, not a good idea. In the context of what the topic starter said, think why would that not be a good idea. |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 06:31 AM
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Kryptid wrote:
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Sure, why not. F-22 pilots must be bored by now grinding eagles, vipers and hornets into hamburger.. a little french pate would be a nice change to the Raptor's diet seriously, the more diverse the training opposition, the better.
Once the F-35 goes into producton, you could use it to really make the Raptor work for its "food" in DACT, huh?
That would be a bit more challenging.. maybe they fly past each other no one being the wiser  you'd have to give the F-22 the edge though |
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Posted: Jun 30, 2009 - 02:49 PM
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That would be a bit more challenging.. maybe they fly past each other no one being the wiser you'd have to give the F-22 the edge though
BVR, yeah, because the F-22 has the lower RCS, the longer-ranged radar and supercruise.
WVR, I'm not so sure. Doesn't the Lightning's EO DAS target other aircraft via infrared imaging (not radar reflections or heat emanations)? That would make the Raptor just as susceptible to being targeted as other aircraft in the phone booth. |
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Posted: Jul 04, 2009 - 02:50 AM
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Kryptid wrote:
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That would be a bit more challenging.. maybe they fly past each other no one being the wiser you'd have to give the F-22 the edge though
WVR, I'm not so sure. Doesn't the Lightning's EO DAS target other aircraft via infrared imaging (not radar reflections or heat emanations)? That would make the Raptor just as susceptible to being targeted as other aircraft in the phone booth.
I know where my money would be on...I'm just going to say the F-22 with it's attributes would present more problems to the F-35 or any other fighter in any regime. |
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