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AlphaWolf
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 Posted: Jul 07, 2004 - 05:55 PM
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| Are the Raptor's external stations fixed or removable (i.e just there when needed)? |
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habu2
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Posted: Jul 07, 2004 - 04:17 PM
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| Yes. The stations are fixed, the stores are 'removable'. |
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AlphaWolf
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Posted: Jul 07, 2004 - 04:36 PM
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| Fixed, as in you'll see launch rails/pylons without stores? |
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parrothead
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Posted: Jul 08, 2004 - 12:23 AM
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| They can attach or remove the pylons on the ground, and from the looks of the picture above, they can jettison the pylons in flight, too. I think getting rid of the pylons at a moment's notice is a VERY important capability, because they can seriously increase the Raptor's RCS. That's why the primary armament is carried internally. On any mission where low RCS is paramount, the pylons wouldn't even be attached. |
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AlphaWolf
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Posted: Jul 08, 2004 - 01:26 AM
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| Thanks for the analysis parrothead. |
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parrothead
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Posted: Jul 08, 2004 - 03:30 AM
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Not a problem AlphaWolf, and welcome to the board  !!! |
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habu2
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Posted: Jul 08, 2004 - 02:53 PM
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On F-16s and F-22s the pylon/fuel tank jettison together, leaving a 'clean' wing station.
I have not seen pics of other wing stores on F-22s. |
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Posted: Jul 08, 2004 - 07:19 PM
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On F-16s and F-22s the pylon/fuel tank jettison together, leaving a 'clean' wing station.
Does the F-22 leave the forward attach point the same as the 16 does? |
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TooTall
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Posted: Apr 03, 2005 - 05:52 PM
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| The pylon is almost identical to an F-15 in almost all aspects. The fuel tanks are too, with the exception of the internal baffles. |
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parrothead
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Posted: Apr 03, 2005 - 07:13 PM
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TooTall wrote:
The pylon is almost identical to an F-15 in almost all aspects. The fuel tanks are too, with the exception of the internal baffles.
Thanks for the new info ! I'm not too familiar with external tank design, could you please elaborate about the baffles? |
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TooTall
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Posted: Apr 03, 2005 - 09:17 PM
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| Inside the tanks, there are three internal sealed sections; forward, middle, and aft. They designed the tanks to keep all the weight forward to the last gallon, and to reduce the weight and balance issues of fuel shifting. With that being said, the tank refuels using a spill over system. Forward fills, then spills over to middle, then spills over to aft. Transfer is reverse operation. |
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parrothead
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Posted: Apr 04, 2005 - 05:10 AM
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| Thanks for the GREAT answer! I get it now. |
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Posted: Apr 12, 2005 - 01:13 PM
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| Sure looks like standard Viper tanks. Would be smart ot use an already proven design if they can. |
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TooTall
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Posted: Apr 12, 2005 - 10:58 PM
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| The spill over design is very similar to that of the F-16, with the exception of where the fuel is routed inside. However, the tank looks identical to an F-15. Almost like a hybrid F-15/F-16 combination tank. |
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Posted: Apr 24, 2005 - 10:36 PM
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The tank is based off the Viper 600 gal tank, and nothing to do with the eagle tank.
Mike V |
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