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SpudmanWP wrote:

2016 is too soon to even think about the F-35 in any significant numbers.

At the beginning of 2016, there will be ~300 US F-35s, but over 100 will be at Eglin AFB (all models) alone.

Throw in all the other OT&E units and I do not see the F-35 having an serious impact till 2018.

fyi, Blk4 OT&E arrives with LRIP 7 (2015) and Blk5 OT&E in 2017, planned dates of course.

This is a much more realistic assessment on when the F-35 will have an impact. Remember, it takes time to test/build/find out what the problems are and fix them.

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Again, none of what I said is dependent on Block this or that. I'm not talking about anything more than F-35 being able to respond to some crisis in the ~2015 timeframe and being able to outclass any opponents IAD. Just the same way as the MV-22 is still not fully deployed yet it's been able to deploy to combat operations and have an impact. Impact being defined as altering the dynamics of a overseas contingency operation. A single squadron of F-35B on an LHD does that.

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also, ELP's whole "mistake jet" argument goes out the window when you consider most of the jets through 2016 will be OT&E and Training jets.

and as a final note, Eglin AFB will have a large, dedicated, F-35 reprogramming facility to update the software as new blocks are deployed.

One could make a comparison, IMO, between F-22 block 20/fixed Increment 3.1 buys and F-35 OT&E block III 'Training jets' through 2016..

Let's face it, F-35 is a new breed and therefore demands new classes of description and terminology (including a new definition of IOC and OT&E). Mistake jets or whatever, I think we can reasonably understand what ELP is rambling about in such a context?

Perhaps we should all get back on this thread in 2016 and compare notes..

SpudmanWP wrote:

also, ELP's whole "mistake jet" argument goes out the window when you consider most of the jets through 2016 will be OT&E and Training jets.

and as a final note, Eglin AFB will have a large, dedicated, F-35 reprogramming facility to update the software as new blocks are deployed.

Will, Eglin AFB operate all three versions of the F-35?

Here are the Plane, Pilot, and Maintainer schedule for Eglin AFB.

Not only does it do all 3 models, but International Pilots and Maintainers also.

SpudmanWP wrote:

Here are the Plane, Pilot, and Maintainer schedule for Eglin AFB.

Not only does it do all 3 models, but International Pilots and Maintainers also.

Interesting...............I would assume that all three models will be operate in USAF Markings???

I was to the Airshow at Eglin a number of years ago. You can bet it will be on my list as the F-35's come online.............. Not Worthy

Way off topic!! F-22 please.....

cywolf32 wrote:

Way off topic!! F-22 please.....

Sorry, ME BAD.............just jumping from one topic to another. Easy to get off track. Confused

new here but looks like you guys are injoying my 6th gen designs anyway

Forget AIM-9x and AIM-120D for 6th Gen.....

It will be a single missile, ala JDRADM.

bagera3005 wrote:

new here but looks like you guys are injoying my 6th gen designs anyway

Hey! See you made the jump from DeviantArt. Yeah, I've been trying to give you credit, but I'm afraid I gave up because the guy that was posting all your images was an idiot. Try not to spam the board with too many images if you can help it though.

relaying on single Ordnance is bad idea thets way f-4 sucked at beginning some one removed the gun from the aircraft

it also way congruous shod be laft out of mil aircraft

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