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I'm sorry guys but it's in Hebrew, but it still worth every KB of download Wink

If you want some translations let me know Smile

BTW, it faster than I thought. They say it can cross Israel (from North to South) in 4 and a half minutes (like most fighter jets Wink

) and get to the US in 7 hours).
The also show an A2A refueling in dark night.
Here it is:
http://msn5.msn.co.il/thur3.wmv

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Hi DeepSpace! Very cool clip!

I am surprise the IDF/AF has relexed the safe guarding of her inventories for such publicity. Not to mention the generosity of HUD & MFD pictures, the cockpit layout (it is in black like the Barak)..etc

And yes, I certainly need translation. If you can be so kind.... Wink

Thanks in advance.

It surprised me too. It was broadcasted on Channel 2's news, the most watched news in Israel.

Here's the translation, I've done my best Wink

:

First subtitle: "AF base, the South, yesterday" (they do that always, even though everyone knows on which AF base they talk about Wink

).

The F-16I Sufa, the best fighter in the AF, and one of the best fighters in the world, doesn't ditinguish between day and night times (then you see the take-off at night).

Second subttile: "View from the cockpit".
It's the first time the AF let us (the TV cameras) to join the training flights of the Sufa at night, and this is how it looks from the cockpit. In the controls of the Sufa is the Squadron commander. He and the WSO in the back seat (they mistakebly say "navigator") train on striking enemy ground targets at time.

First interview (with the Squadron commander):
The significance of that is a low flight and striking targets at night, that we find with the advanced radar that's mounted on the aircraft, and we train new Sufa pilots in these missions.

Then the HUD's view (note the "-" in the altitude scale. This is because they fly over the Dead Sea).
When we talk about the advantages of the Sufa, we also talk about its advanced debriefing system, that record pictures from every single moment of the flight in DVD quality.
This is how the Dead Sea looks like from the "Sufa's view" (like the expression "bird view") at day time, (then the pic changes and you see the aircraft banking), and in 3D picture at night.

Second intervire (with a Sufa pilot):
You feel very confidence. You feel that every thing you wanted on previous planes you flow, they (the designers of the Sufa) came and said "here, enjoy. Now just finish you mission successfully".

Then the refueling scene:
"Take care, he came with the tanks" (refering to the CFT's.)
The narrator: Even a complex mission of an aerial refueling at night becomes a trivial thing with the Sufa.
"Give them a lot of fuel".
"Connected".

Even though it's an American plane, it has a lot of Cahol-Lavan (an expression meaning Israeli-made things. It means Blue-and-White, as the flag of Israel).

Third interview (starting in the background as we see a Sufa taxing):
In this plane there are 50 Israeli companies involved. Including the plane's computers, the HUD systems, some of the pylons, the armament..."

Then we see the cockpit again.
And this plane is also fast. It can cross Israel in 4 and a half minutes (from the North to the South) and can reach to the US in 7 hours.

We see another take-off.
You can fly with it long distances.

And we are with the Squadron leader.
We need to think what you want to do with it, and do the mission.

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Thanks for the value added effort, DeepSpace! Wink

The HUD symbology is pretty interesting. The momentary flashing of "TERRAIN". And I thought I saw a few new sym. Perhaps the expert(s) on the avionics can share their opinion. Lastly, I am rather disappointed, it is not having the 3rd MFD. Sad

thanks again,

You're most welcome Pumpkin Smile

It looks like that it's still uses a normal block 52+ cockpit lay-out. Normal fuel gauge and mfd's. Nothing like the Block 60 cockpit lay-out... Rolling Eyes

That's because it is a Block 52+.

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Perhaps I was mistaken. I remember reading the 52+ is also known as the Glass Viper (could be the F-16ES program). And the fact that the F-16I differs externally from the HAF 52+, and especially with the participation of the Israel Military Industries, I was hoping they have customised for the 3rd CMFD.

I would expect that they would use a own designed cockpit lay-out. F-16 ACE for example had a different lay-out with large CMFD's.

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I would expect that they would use a own designed cockpit lay-out. F-16 ACE for example had a different lay-out with large CMFD's.

True...

And if we are already talking about avionics, in the last issue of the IAF magazine its been published that the IAF is going to put the Sufa's systems in all of its Barak fleet (F-16C\D).

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JanHas, I was surfing the references on the Sufa, again. And this web by Defense-Update.com actually advocates a figures of total 6 CMFDs Shocked

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sorry Deepspace Shocked

, I was under the impression, JanHas meant to say, he would expect Sufa to have the cockpit layout equivalent to that of the ACE program.

Last edited by DeepSpace on Jul 05, 2004 - 11:56 AM; edited 1 time in total

Pumpkin, I know, what I said and what he did have nothing to do with each other Wink

I was talking about the avionics themselves, not the cockpit.

From an avionics standpoint a Block 52+ is basically the same as a CCIP or MLU jet. The Israeli 52+ has some extra EW lumps'n'bumps but that does not change the cockpit configuration substantially. I seriously doubt IDF is going to redo the cockpit on a jet that has been newly delivered in the last few months. It does make sense however that they would run their older C/Ds thru a CCIP/MLU type program.

Pumpkin, I have never heard of a Glass Falcon program. There was a Have Glass program but it had nothing to do with cockpit displays.

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DeepSpace, copied that. Wink

habu2, you're right about the Glass. I guess I will try to run thru' my reference again. Confused

Back to the F-16I, though newly pushed out new from LM, I would think that, they could have pushed for what they desired when the project was still on the drawing board. Then again, what we want might not necessarily be what we get, I guess.

Someone can enlighten me, who made the CMFD for the Sufa? Elbit Systems? Rolling Eyes

Thanks

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This is one article that refers the 52+ as Glass Viper. I remember there were more, in English. Confused

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