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At least some of them get to launch their Vipers one last time and go out with a bang. Crying or Very sad

Fast a$$ CAS, the boys from Syracuse, will be sorely missed. Salute

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9WSYR.com wrote:

Saturday marks last F-16 training deployment in CNY

Syracuse (WSYR-TV) - Those familiar fighters in the skies over central New York are about to make their last deployment for training -- ever.

Saturday, the 174th Fighter Wing will deploy its F-16 jets to a major air war game at a base in Nevada.

They've been a fast-moving fixture in our skies since 1988. The wing has been deployed multiple times in both Gulf Wars and in Afghanistan.

The final scheduled deployment of the F-16s will be a training mission out west. The Fighting Falcons of the 174th will play the role of enemy in a two-week air war game in the skies over Nevada.

The F-16s will go head-to-head against the most modern Air Force fighter, the F-22 Raptor, giving the Raptor pilots and crew the weapons training they need.

“For the aircraft package -- that would be the F-16s -- the pilots as well as the maintenance support personnel, we do not anticipate…a real world deployment. This does represent our last scheduled training deployment,” says Wing Commander Col. Kevin Bradley.

Col. Bradley says next year, the mission changes. The 174th will switch to the unmanned, MQ-9 Reaper. Pilots on the ground at Hancock will fly the Reaper wherever it’s needed, worldwide.

"We never know what world events are going to occur, and we want to make sure we're ready, we're trained, and we're available,” says Col. Bradley.

So keep you eyes to the skies Saturday morning. After the F-16's take to the air for the final deployment, a C-5 Galaxy will be loaded up and on its way with the rest of the airmen and ground crew.

Even though Saturday marks the last deployment for training, the F-16s will remain a familiar sight in the skies over central New York until next March, when the 174th transitions to its new mission with the unmanned Reaper.

source: http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/S ... 2kTyg.cspx

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News 10 Now wrote:

Last training mission for F-16s
Updated: 03/20/2009 04:34 PM
By: Bill Carey

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- The Air Force's largest aircraft, the C5-A Galaxy, taxiing at Hancock Air Base. Preparing for loading by Air National Guard crews, as they prepare to deploy on a training mission to Nevada.

What appears to be a routine operation at an airbase is, in fact, the beginning of an end to an era. This is the last planned deployment of F-16 fighter jets and their ground crews from the 174th Fighter Wing. It will not be long before the familiar F-16s will disappear from this base.

“We are currently well underway in terms of the conversion preparations in readying facilities and getting people identified to go off to start their training for the new mission. The MQ-9 mission,” said Col. Kevin Bradley.

MQ-9 is the military designation for the second generation of the unmanned Predator aircraft. It's called the Reaper. It is far more deadly than its predecessor, able to carry multiple bombs and missiles.

Over a three year period, Hancock will be prepped as a control center for aircraft that could be flying anywhere in New York State on National Guard missions or overseas in Afghanistan or Iraq. Teams of pilots and sensor operators, who run all of the cameras and weapons systems, will report to work at control centers at Hancock. They may have breakfast at home, bomb Al-Qaeda targets in the afternoon and still make it to a child's baseball game in the evening.

“This is something. It is the future of aviation, in terms of high performance fighters,” Bradley said.

The 174th hasn't ended its F-16 mission just yet. And Bradley makes the distinction that this weekend's movement to Nevada is the last "scheduled" deployment.

“We never know what world events are going to occur and we want to make sure that we're ready. That we're trained and we're available,” Bradley said.

The Reaper is coming. But until then, the F-16s remain in the air.

The members of the 174th taking part in the training mission are due back in Syracuse on April 5th.

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Inside the War Games for U.S. Air Force Fighter Pilots

This week fighter jocks role-play bad guys trying to shoot down the U.S. Air Force's most advanced warplane—the F-22 Raptor—and "die wholesale" in the process. The Air National Guard 174th Fighter Wing will be flying training missions over the desert outside Nellis Air Force Base in a high-stakes war game. Here are the pilots who train against the deadliest dogfighter in the world.

By Joe Pappalardo
Published on: April 1, 2009



This week, warplanes from the Air National Guard 174th Fighter Wing will be flying training missions over the desert outside Nellis Air Force Base, trying desperately to compete during simulated combat over the high Nevada desert. Their foes are F-22 Raptors, stealth airplanes that can identify and destroy foes before their targets even know they are there.

The stakes are high—careers can be made and pilots' lives ended as dozens of warplanes share airspace in faux combat. To add to the pressure, this mission will be the Syracuse, N.Y.–based air wing's last deployment in F-16 fighters. In 2010 the wing will be assigned to fly armed drones by joystick, ending more than 60 years of manned aircraft operations.

"I'm honored to have the privilege of leading this detachment on its last deployment in the F-16," says Lt. Col. D. Scott Brenton, deputy operations group commander with the 174th Fighter Wing. "I can think of no better place to take a fighter wing on its last deployment than to Nellis." The name of the game is training, not victory, in this last mission—after all, they will be facing the most sophisticated airplane in the world.

Brenton (call sign "Gripper") has flown the F-16 for 20 years and has close to 4000 hours, including 750 hours of combat. He is also a former Weapons School instructor pilot at Nellis, the same program in which the 174th today is testing its mettle against the Raptor. He doesn't like to lose, but against the F-22 he has little choice. "Fighter pilots are competitive by nature. When the F-22 first became operational, most F-16 and F-15 pilots relished the challenge of going up against it," he says. "I know I did. That is, until I actually did it and discovered how humbling an experience it really was."

The F-22's manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, and the Air Force cite a 30:1 kill ratio between Raptors and their prey. That doesn't equate to one F-22 taking on dozens of enemies; the figure means that for every Raptor shot down, 30 opposing airplanes are expected to be killed. "The F-22 was not built to fight a fair fight," Brenton says.


The Art of Losing

No U.S. airplane—or any other in the world—can match the F-22 in a dogfight during combat training. To get experience in realistic battle conditions, Raptor pilots—always the Blue Team— are training with U.S. pilots who serve as adversaries, or "Red Teams." Last week, Raptor pilots finished training against Navy F-15s and F/A-18 Super Hornets in Japan. This month, Nellis is hosting F-22s at the 2009 Red Flag wargames, a six-week, multinational training exercise held at Eielson Air Force Base in Alaska and at Nellis.

F-22s dominate at Red Flag as well. Red Teams flying F-16s and F-15s take them on. Those who train to be the adversaries at Red Flag belong to the 64th and 65th Aggressor squadrons. These seasoned Red Team veterans find it frustrating to fight what they can't see. "Aggressor pilots are not typical Air Force line units. They tend to have much more experience," says Mike Estrada, a spokesman at the air base. "And I can tell you that our Aggressor pilots are getting very tired of always getting shot down by the F-22."

The reputation of the Raptor is evident in the pride that some take in downing one in simulated combat. A photo surfaced on an aviation website that recently caused a stir when the unnamed pilot of a surveillance aircraft said the silhouette of a warplane he painted on his fuselage was an F-22 that he helped locate and shoot down during an exercise. "Some Navy pilots like to brag if they even lock on to a Raptor," says one Air Force officer.


Learning Potential of a One-Sided Fight

In late March, Brenton's pilots faced F-22s at the Weapons Instructor Course (WIC), an intensive six-month training session that qualifies graduates to train other F-22 pilots from their respective units. Unlike Red Flag, WIC is a classroom, with lessons taught in the air as well as behind desks. The students' adversaries come from Air Force active-duty squadrons, National Guard and Reserve units, Navy and Marine tactical aviation units and from the indigenous Adversary Tactics Squadrons stationed at Nellis.

Red Team pilots trying to shoot down Raptors study intelligence reports about foreign countries' air forces and operate their own aircraft, missiles and radar to emulate the emerging threats and give their opponents a tough time. However, the disparity between the Raptor, which can evade enemy radar and shoot from farther away, means that Red Teams usually get the call over their radio that they have been killed before they even know the fight started.

"My F-16 is still a formidable weapons system in its own right. But it is not even in the same league as an F-22," Brenton says. "Technology keeps the F-22 a virtually undetectable and untouchable regime. It is fair to say that unless an F-22 driver makes a mistake, or has a critical system failure, I will always lose a fight against him. That is a good thing. As a nation, we want it this way. We also want him to be able to handle two, six or eight of us completely on his own."

The Weapons Instructor Course is a grueling test of an Air Force pilot's skill and endurance. Those who graduate receive "the patch"—a distinctive gray with red and black crosshairs, worn on the left shoulder. A new patch was designed in 2009 with 22 aircraft and weapons systems included, a reflection of the program's increasing scope. Unmanned aircraft that carry weapons, for example, are now part of the training.

These days only 30 percent of the graduates are fighter jocks, according to the Air Force. Weapons system professionals, air weapons controllers, intelligence officers, special operations troops and other specialties are also schooled here. WIC's graduation exercise, called Mission Employment (ME) brings all the different elements together for a wargame at Nellis. "ME is equivalent in size and scope to a Red Flag mission, but it is far more advanced," Breton says. These are full scenarios that push already exhausted pilots and other officers to their limits.

The fighters are not at WIC only to dogfight. The Raptor pilots have to learn the best ways here to defeat other threats, like advanced surface-to-air missiles, and to conduct close air support and other missions. A typical flying mission begins the day before the flight, Breton says, when students are assigned a high-value target on the ground that they are expected to protect for about thirty minutes. The students are given the mission specifics that are designed to challenge their problem-solving skills, such as the presence of unknown tactical surface-to-air missile sites, unexpectedly restrictive political borders and even the presence of other friendly or defecting aircraft in the scenario. The day prior to the mission the students will all convene in a mission-planning area to review their tasks, assign specific duties, and develop an overall approach to tackling the tasks at hand. The day of the flight will be a 12-hour marathon—at minimum— for the students and instructors. "This is routine here at WIC," Brenton says. "In fact, all aviators have to be out of the building 12 hours prior to showing up the day of a flying mission. Nevertheless, they often continue refining the details of their plans and rehearsing their briefings well into the evening back in their quarters."

Into the Fight

Following an hour and a half of mission briefings, the pilots suit up and go to their aircraft. At Nellis, the airspace is immense, and the terrain can be extreme. High-desert mountain ranges with jagged peaks several thousand feet in elevation punctuate the desolate landscape between dry lakebeds and smooth salt flats. "There are very few restrictions to airspeeds and altitudes out here, which allows us to train like we intend to fight," Brenton says. "The extreme terrain adds additional tactical problems for students to solve, since radar-equipped aircraft have numerous blind zones behind ridges and surveillance radars cannot always see to the surface."

The faux combat in the air is followed by the Nellis Air Combat Tracking System, which allows real-time tracking of all surface and air participants, including ground threats. On the ground, a telemetry system receives data from small pods that are attached to the aircraft. The data is used by instructors on the ground to conduct safety checks and to coordinate the removal of "killed" airplanes. Brenton says the fights are complex and dangerous. "I equate them to solving a 1000-mph, three-dimensional chess game where the loser dies," he says. "The radio chatter can become so confusing that it's like blaring rock music in your ears at full volume. You have to act fast, think continuously, pull upwards of 9 g's over and over, monitor your fuel state, track your weapons status, make adjustments to the jets' internal systems, avoid the ground, stay in formation with your wingmen, operate your fire-control radar, scan the airspace visually for threats, decipher your blaring radar-warning-receiver signals and ensure that you kill all the bad guys. Then you must dodge the SAMs, engage a ground target with live bombs successfully, turn around and fight your way back out through the regenerated Red Air one more time before heading home."

Simulated gun and missile shots are tracked by the controllers on the ground. When a target is killed, the deceased pilot receives a radio call telling him that he is dead. The pilot will often be sent to a location that simulates an enemy alert airfield, where he is "regenerated," simulating that the enemy has launched another aircraft. (The trainees go back to the base and land if they are killed.) When it comes to fighting Raptors, regeneration is an expected occurrence for WIC Red Teams. "We do everything we can to try and challenge them: We increase our total numbers, we regenerate, we electronically jam the environment. And we die," Brenton says. "We die wholesale. We are kill-removed repeatedly and then regenerated, and then we are killed again. The process would be demoralizing if we didn't maintain proper perspective. This is our job while we are here. What motivates us is the fact that we are training our brethren—and they are damn good at what they do."

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Photos from 174 FW website


TSgt. Bacon stops F-16C block 30 #85-1570 from the 138th FS (marked 174 FW) while SSgt. West, TSgt. Speir, TSgt. Nazario and SSgt. Stinebrickner perform last check at the end of the run way at Nellis AFB on March 23rd, 2009. They are all members of the 174th FW who are on their last scheduled deployment as an F-16 unit.


USAF F-16s from the 138th FS wait their turn on the runway at Nellis AFB on March 23rd, 2009. Seen near side is F-16C block 30 #86-0249. The fighter jets are part of the 174th FW out of Syracuse IAP. The unit is on its last scheduled deployment as an F-16 Wing.


USAF F-16C block 30 #85-1570 from the 138th FS (marked 174 FW) takes off from Nellis AFB on March 23rd, 2009. The F-16 is from the 174th FW Syracuse IAP which is supporting the Weapons Instructor Course. This is the last scheduled deployment for the 174FW.

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Hats off to the "Boys From Syracuse" the 174th was called. They've operated several blocks of the F-16. Having served with the VTANG,I met and worked with maintainers at different times. VT almost had the "Green Mountain Boys" logo taken away during the time the 174th had the "Boys From Syracuse" removed from their aircraft during the turbulent times of political correctness.

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Some additional photos to help serial identification for the six deployed jets. From this we have the following:

#85-1432
#85-1563
#85-1566
#85-1568 (Squadron tail markings removed)
#85-1570 (Marked 174FW)
#86-0249



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SSgt. Jacob Wolfe performs a tail check on an F-16C block 30 #86-0249 from 138 FS at Nellis AFB, NV. SSgt. Wolfe is a member of the 174th FW Syracuse, NY which is on their last deployment with the F-16s. [USAF photo by SSgt Ricky Best]
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TSgt. Ed Peck, SSgt Mack McMclowry, SrA Kyle Potter and Amn Cliff Lamb replace the engine of a F-16C block 30 #85-1566 while at Nellis AFB. The members of the 174th FW are on their last scheduled deployment as an F-16 unit. [USAF photo by SSgt Ricky Best]
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Capt. Robbins is being helped by SrA McConnell to get buckled into block 30 #85-1563 at Nellis AFB. The two are part of the 174th FW that is on it's last scheduled deployment as an F-16 unit. Note #85-1432 in background. [USAF photo by SSgt Ricky Best]
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There are now 7 planes at Nellis, with 432 showing up last weekend. The seventh jet is 85-1482. When they are done, I"ll post shots of them all.

I don't know where they get this "Red Flag" idea from, cause that's not what it is.
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Last week, Raptor pilots finished training against Navy F-15s and F/A-18 Super Hornets in Japan.

WTF Did I not get the memo sayin' the Navy is flyin' Eagles now? How did PM miss that one? Doh

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GooseGoose wrote:
Hats off to the "Boys From Syracuse" the 174th was called. They've operated several blocks of the F-16. Having served with the VTANG,I met and worked with maintainers at different times. VT almost had the "Green Mountain Boys" logo taken away during the time the 174th had the "Boys From Syracuse" removed from their aircraft during the turbulent times of political correctness.

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I was referring to one of their patches that I had seen on a couple of their pilots back in 1989 at an air show. I think it even has the 30mm cannon pod on it and firing... link to patch archives:


<b>138th FS</b> Fastass CAS 'The boys from Syacuse'. (unknown collection)


Too bad the gun pod deal didn't work out too well on their Vipers. Shrug

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