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Hi

I have just started trying out Falcon [Link pending approval] AF. Reading the manual and learning the plane Smile

I'm having a lot of fun, but sometimes I wish the graphics could be just a little better.

My questions:

Are there any upgrades/add-ons or such to Falcon [Link pending approval] AF to get better graphics?

What is FreeFalcon? Is this a good mod/upgrade to Falcon [Link pending approval] AF?

Thanks in advance Smile

gromit190

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To use Freefalcon, tou need a original copy of Falcon 4.0 to install first. I don't think you can use it on AF install. I'm using Open Falcon on my Falcon 4.0 installation. It's the most realistic version of them all...
You should find something here you can use for AF. http://www.lead-pursuit.com/downloads.htm

Grettings and happy landings Cheers

Hi,
update on F4AF only patches from the LP website. But additionally you can buy HiTilesAF for massive improvements of the theaters.
But i also recommend the latest free-release of FreeFalcon 5 at www.freefalcon.com

NIL are you using Open on F4AF? Is so does anyone know of any add ons that will work with F4AF?

No. I have original version of Falcon and then I have updated to Open Falcon 4.5. You should be anle to google it...
Open Falcon gives you a very realistic version of the F-16. You can use the Link16 (datalink) to communicate and assign targets to you wingmen. Works great. I'm not sure that FF5 have that feature. Anyone knows?

Cheers

Thanks for the info I'm going to look into FF5. Saw a video of it today looks pretty nice!

Thanks for the reply Smile

I'm going to try out the MODs Smile

But one thing is still unclear to me; can I use FreeFalcon or OpenFalcon when I only have [Link pending approval] installed?

gromit190 wrote:

But one thing is still unclear to me; can I use FreeFalcon or OpenFalcon when I only have Falcon4.0AF installed?

You don't need Falcon4.0 anymore for FreeFalcon5.

For everyone out there who has got a widescreen monitor and running a Falcon 4.0: Allied Force I would highly recommend to purchase three Ayes Cockpits from http://www.cockpits.nl

1. F-16AM Widescreen Cockpit for Falcon 4.0: Allied Force
2. F-16CG Widescreen Cockpit for Falcon 4.0: Allied Force
3. F-16CJ Widescreen Cockpit for Falcon 4.0: Allied Force

Very fast and easy installation and you will not recognize your F4:AF afterwards - so beautiful it becomes. There is also a nice set of loading screen splashfiles in Miscelaneous Downloads section.

Hi all !

Michael_NIL wrote:

To use Freefalcon, tou need a original copy of Falcon 4.0 to install first. I don't think you can use it on AF install.

Not true. It is not necessary to have an original Falcon 4.0 CD to play it.

Just download it and install it. The problem is that FreeFalcon 5.0 isn't really stable (Depends a lot on your config actually...) when compared to Falcon 4.0 AF. And it's not always possible to apply the anti-aliasing...

But the graphics are in my opinion 2-3 years ahead of F4 AF, and the level of realism is, in my opinion, just second to OpenFalcon. Wink

And I suggest you to download the F4 Logreader ; every Falcon 4.0 version that I played had problems with recognizing if you had consecutive missions. For example, on some missions, you lose an AI wingman, then make it back home, but your logbook shows that your number of consecutive missions is reset to zero, so getting the Air Force Longevity Service Award for 100 consecutive missions is nearly impossible...

See you

EricTerminator wrote:

But the graphics are in my opinion 2-3 years ahead of F4 AF

I don't understand those complaining about bad graphics of Falcon 4.0:Allied Force, in order to get really great graphics you need a good PC capable of running a 1650x1050 32 Bit or even bigger resolution, buy and install Hitiles, Aeyes widescreen cockpits for all flyable F-16s as well as widescreen loading/debriefing files.

So your comparison of plain stock out of the box F4:AF and Freefalcon is not absolutely fair. As well as realism remarks, F-16 is a military combat aircraft so simulation makers can have diffirent views at what is real or not but do not know the actual reality. So, everything is relative and both F4:AF and other derivations of Falcon 4.0 are enough realistic for medium to high skilled simulation fans.

To my opinion huge benefits of Falcon 4.0 Allied Force are:

1. It is the only one complete, official stock boxed simulation set on the market. You do not have do download something from you do not know where, and do not know when it will start crashing. Read through Open Falcon forum, people are getting 15! fps with such graphics cards like ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 (!) while F4:AF pushes from the lowest of 37 and all the way up to 83 in maximum resolutions and maximum graphics settings. Sorry gyus, people pay for expensive hardware aiming for appropriate performance instead of self-assurances like "It is neverless the most realistic instead".

2. All patches, Hitiles, Ayes widescreen cockpits, widescreen loading and debriefing files are applied very easily with a simple installer.

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I don't understand those complaining about bad graphics of Falcon 4.0:Allied Force, in order to get really great graphics you need a good PC capable of running a 1650x1050 32 Bit or even bigger resolution, buy and install Hitiles, Aeyes widescreen cockpits for all flyable F-16s as well as widescreen loading/debriefing files.

This comparison is also unfair, since there is a trick to install the HiTiles in FreeFalcon too, and if my memory is good, the Aeyes cockpits too. And check the quality of the units on the ground and the airplanes and the average FPS ; FreeFalcon has a very optimized graphic engine. I play with a Core 2 Duo E6600 and a GeForce 8800GS, with a resolution of 1280x1024, and I get about 50 FPS at the FLOT...

F4AF is good for stability, but that's all.

EricTerminator wrote:

This comparison is also unfair, since there is a trick to install the HiTiles in FreeFalcon too, and if my memory is good, the Aeyes cockpits too. And check the quality of the units on the ground and the airplanes and the average FPS ; FreeFalcon has a very optimized graphic engine. I play with a Core 2 Duo E6600 and a GeForce 8800GS, with a resolution of 1280x1024, and I get about 50 FPS at the FLOT...F4AF is good for stability, but that's all.

No, thanks. I have tried an Open Falcon once and decided not to go in for any custom modifications any longer. Quality of the units is nothing in the terms of extremely fast pace of Falcon's war - you barely have time to work with F-16 systems during air combat.

And when you have a product, that is easy to install, easy to patch, easy to apply upgrades, that works best with the latest hardware so you know, if you want to load a Tactical Engagement - it will load, as well as Campaign, Dogfight or any other mode - then I stay and stick with the product.

As for other flyable aircraft in FF - they are not worth even looking at, as each one has the same F-16 physics.

Open Falcon rules. Sure graphics are important, but the workload in the cockpit does not give much time to look outside anyway...

Michael_NIL wrote:

Open Falcon rules. Sure graphics are important, but the workload in the cockpit does not give much time to look outside anyway...

Global Falcon team should make it function like ordinary people want, I mean pressing button in the menu should not crash your system into desktop. Constant appeals to the particularity of every PC are not the excuse.

So, Allied Force is the only thing giving one a possibility to fly Falcon simulation without getting nerve and headache.

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