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pushoksti wrote:

I heard that very recently (last week) down in Tyndall a F-22 lost its nose wheel steering and hit one of our CF-18's, deeming it a complete write-off. Anyone have anymore info on this?

lol.. somehow I bet that falls under the category of *rumor*? Guess they don't teach those F22 guys how to use the breaks eh? lol

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Beazz wrote:

pushoksti wrote:

I heard that very recently (last week) down in Tyndall a F-22 lost its nose wheel steering and hit one of our CF-18's, deeming it a complete write-off. Anyone have anymore info on this?

lol.. somehow I bet that falls under the category of *rumor*? Guess they don't teach those F22 guys how to use the breaks eh? lol

I somehow doubt that this is a rumor since I got this info from our CO. More info will come available in due time I guess.

Well, that's a good case to build more 22's - in a way...

pushoksti wrote:

Beazz wrote:

pushoksti wrote:

I heard that very recently (last week) down in Tyndall a F-22 lost its nose wheel steering and hit one of our CF-18's, deeming it a complete write-off. Anyone have anymore info on this?

lol.. somehow I bet that falls under the category of *rumor*? Guess they don't teach those F22 guys how to use the breaks eh? lol

I somehow doubt that this is a rumor since I got this info from our CO. More info will come available in due time I guess.

Well if it did, I take it back. Wink

But after spending close to 30 years working in air traffic control towers and seeing a/c taxi every day I just find it hard to believe that if 2 hit while taxiing it would total either a/c is all. Not to mention that you say nosewheel steering went out which would imply the F22 was possibly turning which would mean it was going even slower then on a straight portion of a taxiway. I guess anything is possible, but there would have to be more to it then simply 2 a/c taxiing and hit and then one or both is totaled. They simply do not go that fast while in taxi mode and they do have breaks that one would assume they would use as well to slow the a/c down even more before an impact.

Looking forward to your further update on it Wink

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beazz

Beazz wrote:

pushoksti wrote:

Beazz wrote:

pushoksti wrote:

I heard that very recently (last week) down in Tyndall a F-22 lost its nose wheel steering and hit one of our CF-18's, deeming it a complete write-off. Anyone have anymore info on this?

lol.. somehow I bet that falls under the category of *rumor*? Guess they don't teach those F22 guys how to use the breaks eh? lol

I somehow doubt that this is a rumor since I got this info from our CO. More info will come available in due time I guess.

Well if it did, I take it back. Wink

But after spending close to 30 years working in air traffic control towers and seeing a/c taxi every day I just find it hard to believe that if 2 hit while taxiing it would total either a/c is all. Not to mention that you say nosewheel steering went out which would imply the F22 was possibly turning which would mean it was going even slower then on a straight portion of a taxiway. I guess anything is possible, but there would have to be more to it then simply 2 a/c taxiing and hit and then one or both is totaled. They simply do not go that fast while in taxi mode and they do have breaks that one would assume they would use as well to slow the a/c down even more before an impact.

Looking forward to your further update on it Wink

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beazz

I agree with what you said. I hope to get more info in the coming week.

Unfortunately it is quite possible, its right here on the site too. Check out tails 88-0421 and 88-0516 from the 421st FS. Both were eventually repaired but we're talking four years of depot repairs.

Beazz wrote:

Well if it did, I take it back. Wink

But after spending close to 30 years working in air traffic control towers and seeing a/c taxi every day I just find it hard to believe that if 2 hit while taxiing it would total either a/c is all. Not to mention that you say nosewheel steering went out which would imply the F22 was possibly turning which would mean it was going even slower then on a straight portion of a taxiway. I guess anything is possible, but there would have to be more to it then simply 2 a/c taxiing and hit and then one or both is totaled. They simply do not go that fast while in taxi mode and they do have breaks that one would assume they would use as well to slow the a/c down even more before an impact.

Looking forward to your further update on it Wink

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beazz

Does ANYBODY know how to spell BRAKES?

JoeSambor wrote:

Does ANYBODY know how to spell BRAKES?

Gee tanks Joe. Wink

[quote="Bodizzle"]Unfortunately it is quite possible, its right here on the site too. Check out tails 88-0421 and 88-0516 from the 421st FS. Both were eventually repaired but we're talking four years of depot repairs.

Well sounds to me like a case of *we'll get to it when we can* if it took that long. It only takes 30 months to build an F22 from the gorund up so obviously a repair that took 4 years was *not* a priority nor were the a/c totaled?

Beazz

[quote="Beazz"]

I don't know about that, sure it may only take 30 months to build an F-22 from the ground up but that's because the parts are coming straight off the assembly line. You don't have that when rebuilding a twenty year old fighter.
And while they may not have been totaled in the fact that they were eventually returned to service, the initial description for the level of damage certainly would be like the poster's description of the accident he heard about.

Beazz wrote:

Bodizzle wrote:

Unfortunately it is quite possible, its right here on the site too. Check out tails 88-0421 and 88-0516 from the 421st FS. Both were eventually repaired but we're talking four years of depot repairs.

Well sounds to me like a case of *we'll get to it when we can* if it took that long. It only takes 30 months to build an F22 from the gorund up so obviously a repair that took 4 years was *not* a priority nor were the a/c totaled?

Beazz

Well Bo,
I don't know so will wait and see what comes out. But what you say about not having parts readily available also to me seems to add credence to the possibility the actualy damage was not that severe, but rather simply not having parts for repairs available. If that was the case, the fact they were willing to take 4 years to get the parts they needed, would at least to me indicate that damage was not that severe and the plane was in good enought shape to wait and get fixed. Seems if an a/c was anywhere near totaled and they knew it was going to take 4 years to get it back up and running they would simply write it off and move on.

Bodizzle wrote:

I don't know about that, sure it may only take 30 months to build an F-22 from the ground up but that's because the parts are coming straight off the assembly line. You don't have that when rebuilding a twenty year old fighter.
And while they may not have been totaled in the fact that they were eventually returned to service, the initial description for the level of damage certainly would be like the poster's description of the accident he heard about.

Beazz wrote:

Bodizzle wrote:

Unfortunately it is quite possible, its right here on the site too. Check out tails 88-0421 and 88-0516 from the 421st FS. Both were eventually repaired but we're talking four years of depot repairs.

Well sounds to me like a case of *we'll get to it when we can* if it took that long. It only takes 30 months to build an F22 from the gorund up so obviously a repair that took 4 years was *not* a priority nor were the a/c totaled?

Beazz

The Raptor is a beast. It even "kills" when taxing, no need to get airborne! Laughing

PhillyGuy wrote:

The Raptor is a beast. It even "kills" when taxing, no need to get airborne! Laughing

The Canadian Air Force is not amused at the Raptors shenanigans.

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