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First EA-18G prototype beats F-22 in air combat?



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PostPosted: Apr 06, 2009 - 12:30 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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ha, i love how the EA-18 jams the radar that can't find the F-22. just seems funny to me for some reason. Two Cents

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Maybe later Blocks (Block 40 onwards) would have APG-77V2 AESA radar sets with increased jam-resistance, unless the EA-18G Growler looses off a Slammer with home-on-jam guidance (functions like the HARM).
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Yes but according to the other thread, the Growler actualy didnt earn the kill, by omitting ROE (ignoring the aspect limit during closures and continued to lead into Raptor) but the Raptor pilot followed the rules. Its got nothing to do with jamming, its plain and simple dogfighting.

So in RL the Growler could not have made the shot, the kill mark is just decorative.
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In order for the Growler to be able to jam APG-77 firsst it should be able to detect its being scanned - tracked, then the suits should be able to emit just every wave encountered, which is how much? 1000 different beams with different freq in a second... APG-77 is that fast but are the ECM suits of Growler that fast? Is its ESM capable of detecting. So far I heard theres only a vague event - rumor that a Typhoon was able to detect it is being tracked at 80 kms, thats the only case as well as I know.
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grande_aquila wrote:
In order for the Growler to be able to jam APG-77 firsst it should be able to detect its being scanned - tracked, then the suits should be able to emit just every wave encountered, which is how much? 1000 different beams with different freq in a second... APG-77 is that fast but are the ECM suits of Growler that fast? Is its ESM capable of detecting. So far I heard theres only a vague event - rumor that a Typhoon was able to detect it is being tracked at 80 kms, thats the only case as well as I know.


Actually over 1500 beams, and changing frequencies at over 1000 per second.
To jam the APG-77, you'd need to be able to cover it's entire frequency range simultaneously. Doing that though would make you a prime target for an ARM/HOJ type shot.
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IIRC, an AESA antenna needs a 10x10 grid or T&R modules to form and steer a beam correctly.

With that you get maybe 10-12 distinct beams.

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