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Posted: Feb 12, 2009 - 10:59 PM
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Oh, totally. Gotta love those MPF "Mexican Generals"!
He who controls the vMPF data entry can conceiveably control his own awards and decs. There needs to be some better checks and balances there too. Someone who isn't in those folks' shop should be the one to enter their data, and it should be a "neutral party". That way, you don't see the A1C living in the dorm with no less than 3 Commendation Medals, as I saw several weeks ago.
My question is, how does an A1C have one AFCM, let alone 3, and still be a dorm resident? I say a dorm resident, to show that this is obviously not someone who was busted a couple of stripes. This is someone who is still relatively new to the AF, so no one can tell me that this kid has legitimately earned 3 AFCMs in the year and a half or 2 that he has been in service. |
_________________ "He counted on America to be passive...He counted wrong." -- President Ronald Reagan
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Posted: May 24, 2013 - 1:23 PM
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Posted: Feb 13, 2009 - 05:02 AM
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| I agree that a lot of people who deserve recognition don't get it because their job doesn't allow people a lot of time to write decs or people in the CoC who deny packages over piddly things; 5 yrs at one base with multiple TDYs, BTZ, 90%+ on CDCs, praises from IG and HHQ got me absolutely nothing. There are also those who might not deserve something get it because their supervisors have nothing to do but write packages. But they can make people move back on-base after things like demotions or divorces, I know two people who got a divorces (seperate couples) that had to move into the dorms because of a divorce, it's all up to the Commander really. |
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Posted: Feb 13, 2009 - 09:15 PM
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I actually did see that as well. A girl was divorced and forced to move back into the dorms, where she took up her former occupation of "Resident Dorm Queen". Prolly what got her divorced in the first place, AND prolly why she is now "Ms." instead of "Airman", because she was not back in the dorms but for a couple of months.
You're right Bodizzle. It's kinda funny to me when the folks in the Awards and Decs shop have several award winners, and the folks who are out there doing the job get Effed over. I don't want to sound bitter here, but I think everybody has seen those folks before who have won awards, when you can look back and say "I did everything that guy did, and sometimes more. Why wasn't I even considered, OR, if I was, then why did I lose?" |
_________________ "He counted on America to be passive...He counted wrong." -- President Ronald Reagan
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Posted: Feb 14, 2009 - 06:47 AM
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| Oh I'm all kinds of bitter about it, coming up on my seven year mark and just now looking at getting my first real decoration. |
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Posted: Feb 14, 2009 - 06:13 PM
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| I am over 7, still have not gotten any, and have PCS'd twice. When I left Korea, I saw another individual get a dec for something that I had done, and I had the pics to prove it! Talk about disenfranchising. That individual then tried to walk off without saluting the commander... Then he used his left hand before getting it right. Back here at Shaw, about 6 months back, an young, blond, female amn in my sqdn got an AFAM for painting murals around the sqdn. They aren't even good pictures. Now after my bout with cancer, deploying let alone PCSing is going to be a royal pain, so there goes that opportunity as well. I don't want to end up as one of those 20 year techs whose highest ribbon is an AFOUA, but not being able to deploy or PCS sure isn't going to help. Ok, thats enough ranting from me... |
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Posted: Feb 15, 2009 - 04:51 AM
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| You guys musta had crap supervisors. I got an achievement medal when I PCS'd. All depends on how lazy your supervisor is. As far as other people getting medals for stuff you did....sorry, that really sucks. People like that should be tied to a pole and drenched with rotten milk and left n the sun for a few hours. |
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Posted: Feb 15, 2009 - 07:14 AM
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Posted: Feb 15, 2009 - 10:09 AM
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Wow egreetroop, some of the experiences you wrote about are eye openers. Some doesn't surprise me though. I've also seen people get medals that IMO, didn't deserve them. I'm sure many have seen the same thing.
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Posted: Feb 16, 2009 - 05:57 AM
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| Wasn't my supervisor; he tried writing me a dec package for 3+ years of meritorious service and that got shot down, then he wrote me a Commendation Medal package that got turned down at the Squadron level, then he re-wrote the Commendation as an Achievement and that got shot down. |
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Posted: Feb 16, 2009 - 06:48 AM
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| Did you have any diciplinary actions? Any EPR's less than a fire wall 5? |
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Posted: Feb 16, 2009 - 02:54 PM
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| It was crap supervisors... The first EPR was a 4 because "I don't believe first term airmen should get 5's...". This from the guy who got BTZ with firewall 5's. Nothing disciplinary. Yet I saw people who were there for less time than me and who had done less than me get them. The one out of Korea, who knows... I know I did the stuff to earn one, cause it was sure as $h!t on the other dousche bags citation... I can't do anything about it, its been three years now, but its still a sore spot. |
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Posted: Feb 20, 2009 - 03:00 AM
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Well, bad experiences aside, at least we can all rest assured now, that on 12 Feb 09, the AFGCM was brought back into service. It's a good thing too. I was a Reservist the last time it was a current award, so I have never earned the active duty AFGCM, and I haven't yet put in enough active time to earn my first. However, the way I see it, by March of 2010, it will show up on my rip, as it would have, had Gen. Moseley never taken the medal away to begin with.
I feel a very embarrassing period of AF history is now behind us as if it had never happened. Score one for the E's in the house! |
_________________ "He counted on America to be passive...He counted wrong." -- President Ronald Reagan
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