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Posted on this site as Thunderbirds receive final 2 Block 52 F-16s

A further posting via Nellis AFB website with photos

Nellis AFB wrote:

Hill delivers final Block 52s to Thunderbirds one year ahead of schedule

by Lee Ann Hensley
Hilltop Times Staff

11/19/2008 - HILL AIR FORCE BASE, Utah -- The Ogden Air Logistics Center at Hill Air Force Base delivered the final two modified Block 52 F-16 Fighting Falcons to the Air Force Thunderbirds on Nov. 17 during a ceremony here.

The two modified F-16s complete the set of 10 upgraded Block 52 F-16 jets that will be used in the Thunderbirds 2009 demonstration season in lieu of the Block 32 aircraft that have been previously used by the famous United States Air Force Air Demonstration Squadron.

Delivering history one year ahead of schedule

In order to continue the demonstration squadron's tradition of displaying the latest advances in aircraft technology, the Air Force Chief of Staff directed in April 2006 that the Thunderbirds convert all F-16s to the Block 52 for the 2010 show season. Two months later, the Hill AFB 508th Aircraft Sustainment Group was chosen to lead the two-phase program with assistance from the 309th Aircraft Maintenance Group, which involved upgrading 10 Block 32 F-16 Fighting Falcons to a Block-52 Thunderbird aircraft and accepting the retired Block 32 Thunderbird jets to convert them into combat-capable Block 52 F-16 aggressors for combat training purposes.

The original schedule had been accelerated to deliver the Block 52 aircraft a year earlier to allow the Thunderbird team to train and perform in the new aircraft for the 2009 show season. The last of the 11 Thunderbird aircraft were inducted in March 2008 and months later were ready for delivery.

"As the final Thunderbird Block 52 rolls off the floor today, it's a product of the tremendous efforts and support from the Ogden Air Logistics Center and the Team Hill community," said the ceremony's honored guest, Brig. Gen. Stephen Hoog, commander of the U.S. Air Force Warfare Center at Nellis AFB, Nev.

"The F-16 and Hill Air Force Base have a shared history. The first operational F-16A was delivered to Hill in 1979, and in 1996 the F-16s flew their 5 millionth hour over Hill Air Force Base," said Lt. Col. Michael Hastriter, Hill AFB 501st Aircraft Sustainment Squadron commander. "We are here today making history once again as we deliver the final Block 52 F-16 Thunderbird aircraft. This Thunderbird conversion program represents the finest of Hill Air Force Base and the finest of our Air Force."

'Going from a Corvette to a Ferrari'

The conversion from the Block 32 to Block 52 F-16 aircraft involves adding advanced avionics and a more powerful Pratt and Whitney 229 motor. These improvements allow the aircraft to expand the performance and operating envelope for the pilots, and will provide improved reliability and maintainability for the Thunderbird maintenance team. A total of 11 Block 32 aircraft also had their gun systems replaced by a smoke-generating system that provides visual amplification to the Thunderbird's shows and had other structural modifications performed to complete the conversion to a Block 52 airframe.

"Each of these aircraft has about 4,500 production hours and the total program has a little over 60,000 maintenance man hours," said Gregory Hoffman, director of the Hill AFB 571st Aircraft Maintenance Squadron. "We close this program today with the hand-off of this final jet. Our folks went through these airplanes to make sure that they were going to be capable to support the team, so that the Thunderbird maintainers don't have to worry about the product they get from this organization."

For the Thunderbird pilots, the conversion program not only offers more reliability for the maintainers, but the upgraded PW 229 engine will provide more power and thrust, improving their show for the viewers.

"We will be able to give a more dynamic performance," said Thunderbird pilot No. 2, Maj. Chris Austin.

"Basically, we will be able to accelerate quicker and climb steeper," added Thunderbird pilot No. 5, Maj. Tyrone Dyon Douglas. "Both jets have their pluses and minuses, but the Block 52 is a better jet overall. It's like going from a Corvette to a Ferrari."

Putting the 'fight' back in 'Fighting Falcon'

The second phase of the conversion program will involve taking the 10 retired Thunderbird Block 32 aircraft that were delivered from Nellis AFB on Nov. 17 and converting them from their aerial demonstration configuration back to a combat-capable fighter aircraft. The aircraft will receive the Block 52 avionics modifications and structural replacements, and then their paint scheme will be changed from friendly red, white and blue to enemy aggressor color schemes.

"All ten aircraft will then be returned to Nellis Air Force Base to be used in adversarial training missions such as Red Flag," Hoffman said.

source: http://www.nellis.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123124913



Lt. Col. Michael Hastriter, 501st Aircraft Sustainment Squadron commander (right), watches as Brig. Gen. Stephen Hoog, USAF Warfare Center commander (left), receives an F-16 log book from Greg Hoffman, 573rd Maintenance Squadron Director (center), symbolizing the official handing over of the last block 52 F-16C for the USAF Thunderbirds Aerial Demonstration Team during a ceremony on November 17th at Hill AFB.


The last F-16C block 52 for the USAF Thunderbirds Aerial Demonstration Team departs Hill AFB for its new home at Nellis AFB on November 17th, 2008.

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So when do the get F-35s? Mr. Green
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More like when do they get the F-22s!!! Crazy Pilot Cheers

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Since they got F-16 instead of F-15s in the Hi/Lo mix, the F-35 is the new "Lo" part of the F-22/F-35 Hi/Lo mix.

That being said... The USAF is not even getting all the F-22 they needed to begin with. If they somehow get the brass to give F-22s to the Thunderbirds, without first fixing this problem, I will be the first to start howling in protest.
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Well no matter the F-22 or F-35, either one would look so cool in Thunderbird colors Very Happy but we all know that the F-16 will be their aircraft for a long time to come.
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When did the Thunderbirds get the F-16 in relation to the F-16's IOC?

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IOC was....1978 or 79? They transitioned to the Viper in '82 but didn't fly a show with 'em until the '83 show season.

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Did I read the article correctly when it said that the depot would modify the old block 32s to become block 52s and go to aggressor squadrons??? This I gotta see!

Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to just convert them back to standard block 32s and put them in operational squadrons?

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I was puzzled about that too. I figured they were talkin' about the CUPID mod but I thought that was just for avionics, not airframe. However....I was lookin' at AMARG on Google Earth yesterday and happened to notice a buncha Viper carcasses without any wings. Hmmmmmm... WTF Go to where S. Kolb crosses under S. Yuma and look at 1 o'clock. Could just be nothin' tho.

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GREAT!! Now the Thunderbirds can do air shows at night!!! Thumb

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maddog2840 wrote:
GREAT!! Now the Thunderbirds can do air shows at night!!! Thumb
I'd pay to see that!!!! Thumb

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RamsteinPilot526 wrote:
maddog2840 wrote:
GREAT!! Now the Thunderbirds can do air shows at night!!! Thumb
I'd pay to see that!!!! Thumb


You wouldn't see much.

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maddog2840 wrote:
GREAT!! Now the Thunderbirds can do air shows at night!!! Thumb


To quote Stan Freberg: "that's like acrobats on radio."

regards, OL
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http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/8161/ ... ams27b.jpg
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hope the links work, but a few years ago, i think 05 or 06....not sure which, i visited Hulman and saw some of the F-16s take off and land and even got a simulator ride, those aren't any of the pics but Racers you might remember, it was the GTO club.

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Pah - now hows about some Block 70s for the USAF Smile
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