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Posted: Mar 07, 2009 - 07:20 PM
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dwightlooi
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Posted: Mar 07, 2009 - 08:21 PM
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wolfsith wrote:
Is this AF-1?
Looks like the AA-1 to me... the Vertical Stabilizers are BIG and the fuselage end is not saw toothed around the exhaust nozzle. |
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SnakeHandler
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Posted: Mar 07, 2009 - 08:48 PM
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Posted: Mar 08, 2009 - 03:13 AM
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I love the LM marking under the wing, and the PW markings near the Horizontal Stab/Nozzle...
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daemonllama
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Posted: Mar 08, 2009 - 12:10 PM
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Case in point for that other thread about increasing missile carrying capacity.
You're gonna fit it where now? |
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dwightlooi
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Posted: Mar 08, 2009 - 06:21 PM
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daemonllama wrote:
Case in point for that other thread about increasing missile carrying capacity.
You're gonna fit it where now?
In the bay, three abreast each, staggered. The bays are roughly the same width as the F-22's, but longer (4.2 m vs 3.8 m). They are also deeper over 2/3 of the width to accomodate the 2,000 class ordnance on the F-35A and F-35C. Right now, the issue is that the AMRAAM ejector on roof of the bay takes one missile, to carry six you need a dual ejector.
Posters on this forum are not the ones claiming that there is room for more missiles in the bays. It was General Charles C Davis -- F-35 Program Executive Officer -- who made multiple statements to this regard. |
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daemonllama
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 01:15 AM
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6 = feasible, that i get.
OMG F-35 wit teh 27 missile inturnol stealth mode mega macross FAST pack = not so feasible |
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 02:47 AM
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daemonllama wrote:
6 = feasible, that i get.
OMG F-35 wit teh 27 missile inturnol stealth mode mega macross FAST pack = not so feasible
And, nobody is claiming that as a feasible configuration. It is neither feasible nor desired. It is a stretch to argue the need for 10 missiles on a single sortie much less 27. The practical F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18 A2A warload is 4 to 8 -- with 4 or 6 being the most common on the sixteen and eigtheen, whereas 6 to 8 being more common on the heavy twins. |
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Corsair1963
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 05:50 AM
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dwightlooi wrote:
daemonllama wrote:
6 = feasible, that i get.
OMG F-35 wit teh 27 missile inturnol stealth mode mega macross FAST pack = not so feasible
And, nobody is claiming that as a feasible configuration. It is neither feasible nor desired. It is a stretch to argue the need for 10 missiles on a single sortie much less 27. The practical F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18 A2A warload is 4 to 8 -- with 4 or 6 being the most common on the sixteen and eigtheen, whereas 6 to 8 being more common on the heavy twins.
So, 6-AAM's would be ideal of the F-35 in a totally stealthy configuration....  |
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Conan
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 08:14 AM
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daemonllama wrote:
6 = feasible, that i get.
OMG F-35 wit teh 27 missile inturnol stealth mode mega macross FAST pack = not so feasible
What missile are you talking about?  |
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 12:48 PM
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Corsair1963 wrote:
So, 6-AAM's would be ideal of the F-35 in a totally stealthy configuration....
More like 2-AAM's, leave the Air Dominance to the Air Dominance to the Air Domininance fighter. The AMRAAMs are for nothing more than "self protection" against targets of oppertunity while the F-35 conducts its bombing mission. |
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 12:48 PM
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| whoops, its early and I havent finished my cup of coffee yet. |
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 08:44 PM
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Conan wrote:
daemonllama wrote:
6 = feasible, that i get.
OMG F-35 wit teh 27 missile inturnol stealth mode mega macross FAST pack = not so feasible
What missile are you talking about?
"AMRAAMS" of course.........  |
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Corsair1963
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 08:47 PM
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sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:
Corsair1963 wrote:
So, 6-AAM's would be ideal of the F-35 in a totally stealthy configuration....
More like 2-AAM's, leave the Air Dominance to the Air Dominance to the Air Domininance fighter. The AMRAAMs are for nothing more than "self protection" against targets of oppertunity while the F-35 conducts its bombing mission.
First, with only ~ 200 Raptors available worldwide. Its not going to always be available in sufficient numbers. Regardless, the F-35 in the next best thing and will be used by many nations in the Air Superiority Role.
So, expect to see six internal AAM's shortly after it enters service.......  |
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Ztex
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Posted: Mar 09, 2009 - 10:47 PM
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