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 Posted: Oct 23, 2008 - 07:59 PM
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Hi,
I was reading about the CCIP upgrade and seems that all block40/42/50/52s will receive IFF, with 50/52s first and then 40/42s followed.
However I've never seen a pic with a block40/42 with bird slicers. Does that mean AIFF is not included for those?
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Henrik
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Posted: Oct 23, 2008 - 08:41 PM
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Skwabie,
No AIFF - AN/APX-113 or other - is installed on the Block-40/42s!! There was no finding for the AIFF system on those Blocks and although the ANG has their own funding there will be no AIFF on the Block-42s in Toledo, OH and Tulsa, OK either.
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Posted: Oct 23, 2008 - 09:08 PM
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skwabie wrote:
Hi,
I was reading about the CCIP upgrade and seems that all block40/42/50/52s will receive IFF, with 50/52s first and then 40/42s followed.
However I've never seen a pic with a block40/42 with bird slicers. Does that mean AIFF is not included for those?
Thanks!
Most (?) of the block 40/42 fleet is CCIP'd at this point, and the only external clues are the JHMCS sensor on the inside of the L side of the canopy. |
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skwabie
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Posted: Oct 24, 2008 - 07:28 AM
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Hey thanks Henrik and AfterburnerDecalsScott.  I'll pay more attention to the inside the canopy next time. |
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Viper_Spec
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Posted: Oct 24, 2008 - 06:08 PM
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The block 40/42 fleet will get the APX-119 to replace the -101 when they go to M5. The -119 will give them Mode S capabilty that conforms to Europe's upcoming requirements.
They never received the -113 for funding reasons. |
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Butcher
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Posted: Oct 24, 2008 - 07:36 PM
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Henrik
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Posted: Oct 25, 2008 - 02:38 PM
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Viper_Spec wrote:
The block 40/42 fleet will get the APX-119 to replace the -101 when they go to M5. The -119 will give them Mode S capabilty that conforms to Europe's upcoming requirements.
They never received the -113 for funding reasons.
Thanks Viper_Spec,
Will the APX-119 have visible features like the "bird slicer" antennas of the APX-113??
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geogen
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Posted: Oct 26, 2008 - 02:03 AM
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One could ponder how many blk 40/42 will be retired now, prematurely, before even going to M5/APX-119... for funding reasons.  |
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Posted: Oct 26, 2008 - 08:48 AM
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| I highly doubt that they would give them new engines (Block 42) and then retire them. Also i doubt that they would give them CCIP updates and then retire them. |
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Viper_Spec
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Posted: Nov 03, 2008 - 05:39 PM
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Henrik -
The APX-119 is essentially a "plug and play" system. All that will be changed is the IFF R/T and the panel in the cockpit. There will be no air-to-air interogation capability so there will be no bird slicers or any external identification. This new box just brings the IFF system up to 21 century technology and standards. |
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ViperDude
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Posted: Nov 03, 2008 - 09:07 PM
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skwabie wrote:
Hi,
I was reading about the CCIP upgrade and seems that all block40/42/50/52s will receive IFF, with 50/52s first and then 40/42s followed.
However I've never seen a pic with a block40/42 with bird slicers. Does that mean AIFF is not included for those?
The ANG will be funding Blk 40/42 aircraft with AIFF but it will be coupled in with other systems such as BLOS.
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ViperDude
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Posted: Nov 03, 2008 - 09:17 PM
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Viper_Spec wrote:
The block 40/42 fleet will get the APX-119 to replace the -101 when they go to M5. The -119 will give them Mode S capabilty that conforms to Europe's upcoming requirements.
They never received the -113 for funding reasons.
Actually that's incorrect. They will get APX-124 digital AIFF's with the new core software in M5.1+
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Viper_Spec
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Posted: Nov 03, 2008 - 11:00 PM
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ViperDude -
You are correct. They are similar units, just made by different manufacturers. |
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