Forum: Air Power

I've seen a lot of talk here and there about how BVR combat is far more relevant than WVR these days. I guess that assertion does make sense because one must pass through BVR to actually get to WVR.

The standard strategy seems to be: "detect enemy in BVR" -> "fire a missile or two before they get close". This seems to be what makes the F-22 so theoretically effective.

Now what about countermeasures like chaff, flares, etc.? How effective are such measures if you can actually detect a missile coming your way from BVR? Countermeasures must have some effectiveness, otherwise they wouldn't be put on aircraft. Surely it would make a difference on what kind of missile is headed your way (AMRAAM, R-77, etc.) as well?

Would I be correct in assuming that you are more likely to evade a missile the sooner you detect it? Do countermeasures make WVR combat a non-insignificant possibility even in this modern era of stealth?

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Forum: Air Power

How effective are countermeasures?