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I don't think he is lying to you, he isn't exactly accurate, but if it has been 20 years it is definitely excusable. (The DFLCC is gray and has more than 5 canon plugs) A/C is a common abbreviation for aircraft. In the air force now, all of Avionics is "shredless", IE A modern day avionics tech works all aspects of the airplane.

Kind of crazy though that he provided you with a pic of an old flight control panel. We are in a digital world now. I havent seen an analog jet since tech school.

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Okay...I'm lost here. So who is the poser? All of your posts have been here? So what are you really looking for?

I have a great idea. Will the accused poser - who appears to be a legit B-shopper - please post. Obviously you know about us - and some of us probably know you - so post and identify. This will surely end this controversy and most likely reconnect some old friends.

oh, and in answer to his question about the LED's on the flight control panel. Been years since I've seen one, but pretty sure those are the P-R-Y lights... then again I am old, blind and have been hit in the head several times by stabs.

Ask the guy his name and when he was assigned to what unit.

Back in the day, us Avionics folks were few and far between, everybody knew everybody, I knew a bunch of the McDill guys, somebody on here might know him or at least know of him....

Another thing would be to ask him for a pic, most people have photos from where they've been....

Smitty

Newbie Joined: Sep 15, 2008 - 07:06 AM Posts: 1

Purplehaze wrote:

[Link pending approval]'m lost here. So who is the poser? All of your posts have been here? So what are you really looking for?

This littlebird is a little Russian who claimed to be Cambridge educated with perfect English. He believed that the F-16 require at least 6,000 ft of runway to land. Instead of posting my own personal accounts based upon Hot Pit conversations that have pilots taking 4,500 ft if they go easy on the brakes and less if hard, I decided to post relevant COMBAT EDGE articles and official USAF manuals that dispute him, the kid then threw a hissy fit that led him here. Never mind that here has another person who has a personal recollections that F-16 pilots will not land on runways 6,000 ft or less. The kid is just too lazy despite the search tool call the 'personal computer' that is sitting in front of him.

TJSmitty wrote:

Ask the guy his name and when he was assigned to what unit.

Back in the day, us Avionics folks were few and far between, everybody knew everybody, I knew a bunch of the McDill guys, somebody on here might know him or at least know of [Link pending approval]

Another thing would be to ask him for a pic, most people have photos from where they've [Link pending approval]

Smitty

[Link pending approval] starters, I know WCIN Dave Velez (left)...

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He was roommate with Cassatt (hyd) for a while on the end room on the third floor of the AGS dorm. I know Surico, Baumgartner, Brumfield and James -- all B-shoppers; Nelson and Hansee were A-shoppers and Nelson had a Brit wife. Last I heard, Nelson got divorced. The A-shop crew had a cute blond girl and I cannot remember her name. There were Marquez the martial artist and Long (C-shop) who lusted after blondes but ended up marrying a 'Rican like himself. Long was a Dolphins fan so he got a lot of 'Squish the Fish !!' during season.

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Tim Smith
Avionics '81 - '05
F-16 A/B/C/D
F-111D FB-111A
F-15A/B
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I just hate safety wiring that roll rate gyro in the main gear well, don't you? Or how about a compass swing? What a pain in the a$$ that was. Did Diaz made Chief in twenty like he planned? He was a nice guy. Was a SSGT when he taught this young airman his first 'spike' ops-check. In the winter time at that. Froze my a$$ off. I just hate that New Mexico winter. There were Fluck and Novitsky. Fluck was worshipful of The Clash and Novit, a great guy whenever he was blotto-ed drunk, said the best way to get Fluck all rile up is to say Joe Strummer of The Clash is an a-hole. There was Dibonnaventura aka 'Dibon'.

At the 'Dill, the B-shoppers were Sellers, Thompson, Gerbasi, Sage, Marcum who was ex-SP and for the life of me I cannot remember the name of the guy who was a good sketch artist and drew/caricatured the Avionics crew, including the truck. He does a decent 'Norm of Cheers' impression so he drew himself as a mailman. In the same sketch, Steinruck was wearing his FHP hat and writing the truck a ticket. WilliamG on this forum could be the TMNT guy. Not sure. Wonder if Tidd, aka 'The Tiddster' who loved volleyball, became an architect like he wanted. Page (Electrician) is a friend.

The debate is still going on, gentlemen, so if you can finger me out, please sssshhhh as I do not want this kid to whine about how my acquaintances here is lying for me.

Very Happy

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[Link pending approval] moving to a new place and as we were hauling our junk, the woman tuned the radio and Rick Ashley came on. The name clicked and I said aloud: "His name is Ashley !" She gave me a look that only women could give to men and said: "Of course it is. What did you think it was?"

But [Link pending approval] sketch artist that drew our crew was Ashley.

Littlebird, IMO you got more than enough of your questions answered from all sides, to satisfy any doubt you once had about this 'poser' with whom you're doing cyber battle with?!?

Perhaps it's best to just walk away from this little conflict and move on in a less contentious manner while achieving the same education? Just my Two Cents

i'm [Link pending approval] no, you're right, no, I'm [Link pending approval] omg. is it so important to confirm your idea that the dude is a poser? why? does it stroke your ego when you're right?

Enthusiast Joined: Oct 03, 2007 - 03:10 PM Posts: 23

Wow...safety wiring the Roll Rate Gyro on a 111 did suck, especially if you were BSing instead of paying attention to what you were doing when backing off the speed brake. That kidney panel was a killer!! Sevetyseventh must be old school if he worked at Upper Heyford, crossed some systems though. 111's had an AOS probe, 16's use the DPS. Probably got forced cross trained when they retired. B-shop is THE shop!

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Why even bother reopening a thread that's been dead for well over a year (last post was Sep 15 2008)?

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Why even bother reopening a thread that's been dead for well over a year (last post was Sep 15 2008)?

Unaware there was an expiration date on threads. If you really had nothing to say, why not just move on?

As a Crew Chief, I am able to answer many of these questions without much thought. There were some that I didn't know. However, I'd like to know if my answers were close, and what the correct answers are if they are not. Thank you.

On an LE flap rig, what do you with the AoA probes and the pitot probe, is the TTU-205 required and why, what circuit breakers are involved, which side of the aircraft are they, can they be pulled by one man and if yes in which order and why that order?

* You rotate them, up and down simultaneously, to watch the LEF’s move up and down. The LEF's move according to the AOA of the aircraft to create lift. One man/ woman must rotate them by hand, while squatting under the nose. If not rotated simultaneously, the breakers will extend.

* They are located on the right side, strake.

* One man can do it, but, only if he has tied a tie string to each of the circuit breakers.

What direction is the knurl nut on the sidestick controller and what is the safety wire gauge for it?

* Counterclockwise to tighten. 20 thousandths safety wire is used.

What are WoW switches and where are they? Does anyone like to work on them? What could happen when someone drop a piece safety wire while working on a WoW switch? Which one is the easiest to R-n-R?

* Weight On Wheels switches, located on each of the three landing gear. I don’t mind working on them… The main gear - At the upper tension strut mount point, just above the big, gaping hole in the top of the tension strut…which answers your next question about the safety wire. It falls in the hole (as may the nuts and washer on the switch), and you have to fish it out with a magnet and/or use a borescope to see if it is actually in there. Nose strut - Between the torque links. When depressed, engages nose wheel steering during landing.

* The main gear WOW switch harnesses run around the tension strut, and up into the wheel well, connecting to a larger harness somewhere around the 309 bulkhead. The nose is the easiest to R & R because it terminates in the wheel well.

What type/method of fuel quantity measurement is used on the F-16 and why that type/method? Where on the F-16 has the longest fuel quantity probes?

* Fuel is measured in lbs because of the takeoff/landing weight. The fuel truck, however, measures in gallons….unless you are in a foreign country that measures in liters.

* F1 fuel bladder has the longest probes.
What happens to the F-4 tape on the pitot probe if a certain circuit breaker is not pulled on certain checks? Where on the aircraft is that circuit breaker?

* It melts to the probe.

* Under door/ panel 1305 - Probe HTR

Regarding FLCS power...What are those two black boxes, each with one 'cannon' plug and three wires, in the image below?

http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item46239.html

* For some reason, I want to say Air Data Processors, but I do not know the answer to this one. I do know where to find the answer though…

The F-16 has quadruple fly-by-wire system, so does FLCS power branch A go to FLCS branch A, or does it go to a different branch? If not, why not?

* FLCS power branch A goes to A and C....I think.

Is it true that FLCS wire bundles run through fuel tanks?

* Yes

On certain checks, what happens when the sideslip probe is turned?

* The rudder moves to compensate for the gun firing, or, when more drag is created on one side of the aircraft due to expended munitions on the other.

In maintenance parlance, what does 'canned' stands for?

* Parts removed from a “hangar queen,” or other unserviceable aircraft to make the recipient aircraft FMC.

In this image...

http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item105254.html

Right above the words 'LE FLAPS' are three LEDs. What are they?

* I want to say this is for the self, or BIT, test on older aircraft. I would say up to Block 30? The larger, or bottom, LED displays the number of the step, and the two, small upper LED’s display A and B. But I do not know the answer to this question.

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