Forum: General F-35 Forum

Obamanite,
Very, Very disappointed in your latest posts. Usually you sound reasonable and well articulated. Graduating second to last at Annapolis has nothing to do with flying skills. Oh and graduating from an Academy is not an easy task even if you are an Admirals son.
Getting shot down in Vietnam must then be your criteria for second rate fighter pilot. Well what would you call a fighter pilot who had been shot down over 5 times and crashed a total of 14 times?? You would call him probably the best fighter pilot of all time, Eric Hartman. So hopefully you've got a better criteria for calling him a second rate fighter pilot...maybe another fighter pilot who flew with him said it or something more relevant like that.

Obamanite you should not launch in to the personal attacks against others since it is obvious you don't like it when attacks are launched against Obama. Make those that say ridiculous things defend them with facts or just have fun with their opinions with out making them personal.

Now I will say this about Obama, I saw a video of him talking about what he would do as president and he did say he would stop all advanced projects until a thorough review was done to determine their necessity. I'll try and dig up that link and post it, but it is too late right now. (Oh and I copy, you probably don't care what I think about your posts)

For the record, I rather enjoyed my time in Texas. Met a few crazies there, but you encounter them wherever you go. So, no offense, TX.

Just to stay on topic, I disagree with LMAggie. I don't think it's a forgone conclusion that Obama will axe the F-22. He is first and foremost a pragmatist (notice his recent about-face on off-shore drilling, which I happen to oppose and kind of pisses me off), and if the USAF can make a convicing argument for keeping production going, I think he will be open to it. McCain, on the other hand, is a lot more rigid, principally because of his age, but also because of his military background. Once he's made up his mind about something, he's unlikely to change it, unless there is a clear political payoff involved (both he and Obama are consumate politicians who would do anything and say anything to get elected - can you tell I'm a little disillusioned by Obama as of late?).

At any rate, it is also very likely that Congress goes over the head of either an Obama and McCain president and continues to fund the Raptor even if the Pentagon doesn't ask for any more funds. Just look at the C-17. Or the F136. Or what may happen with the DDG-1000. And neither Obama or McCain are likely to veto a defense bill just because it has a few extra Raptors they didn't ask for. So, let's just hope Congress comes through.

There's also a reason that Muslem friends of mine from places like SA, Egypt and Kuwait have all ask me if I am voting for OB. Wonder if you can figure that one out?

Beazz

I was sorely tempted to post the pic of the New Yorker Obama cover but I'll refrain.

Corsair, The reason why US will be picking up the majority of the total and future R&D tab (including: the F-136) is simple... it's because foreign markets have a defacto major negotiating leverage over this aspect and most likely the entire foreign sales success of this product would slump given more 'democratic' market list prices.

And LMAggie bro, please do retain some faith that one administration cannot in 4 yrs indefinitely doom the entire US's socio-ideological-economic system and form of democracy! I am more optimistic I guess, that regardless of which extreme force is ever in the white house, that 'We' can overcome it, moderate it, correct it and progress. If anything, more negative domestic transformations have developed in the past 8 yrs than ever?? And yep, I'm a Republican for argument sake.