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PostPosted: Jul 25, 2008 - 10:06 PM Reply with quote Back to top
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Hi all,

I would like to know if is authorizated to land with AG Bombs and if is possibile if there is difference between the different king of AG Bombs (MK - AGM - LGB etc...).

Thank's for your good support.

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Sure its possible. Happens all the time. Of course there are situations that dictate dropping extra weight for landings...like emergencies...etc.
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As long as you're above the Maximum Landing Weight, no problem.
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DeepSpace wrote:
As long as you're above the Maximum Landing Weight, no problem.


Actually as long as you're BELOW maximum landing weight, its no problem.
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There is no maximum landing weight, as the airplane can be landed at any weight at which it is cleared to fly (max takeoff weight). Some confusion exists about this topic, since there are two specified max landing weight conditions called "maximum landplane landing design gross weight" and "maximum landing design gross weight". Max landplane landing design gross weight is based on return from a normal air to air mission. On the original F-16 that weight was 19,500 lb (considerably higher now) and the design sink rate was 10 ft/sec, a really bad landing. The maximum landing design gross weight (based on return from a normal air to ground mission) was (in 1979) 27,500 lb (also considerably higher now) and the design sink rate was 6 ft/sec, also not a good landing. A normal landing is usually between 1 and 2 ft/sec sink rate.

To summarize, at lighter gross weights, landings up to 10 ft/sec are OK and at heavier weights, landings up to 6 ft/sec are OK. What is the design sink rate for a max takeoff weight landing? Nobody knows, because the USAF did not pay General Dynamics to design for that condition. If there is an emergency right after a takeoff at max takeoff weight, a normal landing should be no problem for the landing gear. Of course, if it is safe to jettison stores, there will be more margin for error.

Of course, things like brake energy limits, available runway length, arrestment availability should also be considered.
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Hi all and thanks for your help.

I'm from Rimini, Italy. I'm on Adriatic Coast and during Balkans conflict I know that many fuel tank and bombs was dropped in predestinate area in the sea. Have you got more information like "when the tank and bombs are dropped" and "how big is this area"?

Many Italians Pilots of Tornado have told me that usually the loadout were dropped into the sea before returning to base, is it true?

Thanks
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