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Vipers in COIN Opns



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rickster25
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StolichnayaStrafer wrote:

Mount SUU-23A 20mm gun pods on them, F-16s could carry them I bet. Cannon rounds are a lot cheaper than the other stuff so it's easier to have more on hand. LAU-3 launchers are nice too, I bet the 2.75" rockets for them aren't that expensive either. Two Cents

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Thanks Strafer for the input. We locally-made HVARs that makes the LAU-3 a good loadout for COIN ops and LAU-10 with four 5-inch Zuni rockets. I had read a thread saying that Viper pilots don't want to fire rockets. Surprised
As for the gunpods, I select GPU-2/A 20mm and SUU-12/A 12.7mm. Smile

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Snick wrote:
A lesser evil Hitler... Except the mind of conquest is a big NO NO....

I'm just wishing for a leader dedicated of crushing all resistance or threat to our constitution..

Iron bombs are enough. Mk. 82s.


Hitler provokes fear to his enemies either real or imaginary. Thus supressing them and not eliminating them. Cool
But I like Maj Gen Park Chung-hee as a dictator. Cheers

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That's it sir... Suppress or terminate are their only choice,...

So that we can now have newer air assets to save our troops butt!

BTW, my Viper and OV-10A model kits are ready for painting...

I've done before a Misawa-based Viper Blk. 50 and a PhAF OV-10C in an overall light grey paint scheme. Beer

My ongoing builds now are standard USAF Viper (i think the Hasegawa offering was a Blk. 25 Viper [item code E2]) and making me think If my Bronco will be USAF -A or PhaF -A... Cheers
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My what-if PhAF Viper CJ has just got a snag but I'll post it when it's done. Speaking of Broncos, look at the single color scheme of the 16th Attack Squadron. Guiness
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-10078.html

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F-16 pilots don't like rockets? Why not? Sad

Rockets can be fun and you don't have to look back to see what they're doing, right? Twisted Evil

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StolichnayaStrafer wrote:
F-16 pilots don't like rockets? Why not? Sad

Rockets can be fun and you don't have to look back to see what they're doing, right? Twisted Evil


Here's the link to that thread.
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopi ... r-asc.html

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Thanks for the link, I guess i better get back to reading the older threads! Wink

The last post on it said that the LAU-3 was decertified for F-16 use- or at least US ones, I suppose.

Oh well. Whistle

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Snick wrote:
That's it sir... Suppress or terminate are their only choice,...

So that we can now have newer air assets to save our troops butt!

BTW, my Viper and OV-10A model kits are ready for painting...

I've done before a Misawa-based Viper Blk. 50 and a PhAF OV-10C in an overall light grey paint scheme. Beer

My ongoing builds now are standard USAF Viper (i think the Hasegawa offering was a Blk. 25 Viper [item code E2]) and making me think If my Bronco will be USAF -A or PhaF -A... Cheers


-the paint scheme you've shown me was that of OV-10M, the four-blade version of our Bronco. I will sport that on my third OV-10 kit. For now, I'll be doing the USAF 'Nam version.
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That's it sir... Suppress or terminate are their only choice,...

So that we can now have newer air assets to save our troops butt!

BTW, my Viper and OV-10A model kits are ready for painting...

I've done before a Misawa-based Viper Blk. 50 and a PhAF OV-10C in an overall light grey paint scheme. Beer

My ongoing builds now are standard USAF Viper (i think the Hasegawa offering was a Blk. 25 Viper [item code E2]) and making me think If my Bronco will be USAF -A or PhaF -A... Cheers


-the paint scheme you've shown me was that of OV-10M, the four-blade version of our Bronco. I will sport that on my third OV-10 kit. For now, I'll be doing the USAF 'Nam version.


It's an OV-10A modified by the PhAF with a new engine and a four-blade Hamilton Standard propellers. I don't know yet its official designation.

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It's called now OV-10M... According to my friend's OV-10A pilot... Yes it's an old -A modified...
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Snick wrote:
It's called now OV-10M... According to my friend's OV-10A pilot... Yes it's an old -A modified...


Thanks for the info, snick. Thumb

They can act as FACs for the Vipers during an encounter or firefight, thus fulfilling their true role. Crazy Pilot

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COIN LOADOUT. The Vipers slated for a special missions like enemy concentrations and leadership personalities may well be loaded out with a mix of GBU-38s, AGM-65s and GBU-12s with a Litening pod on 5R. But for CAS, they may well be loaded with a two of LAU-3s on 3 and 7 and a SUU-12/A on 5 Question.

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Yes! Like the USAF Viper loadout that killed terrorist Al-Zarqawi in Iraq... If i'm not mistaken, they used GBU-12 to kill him while "caged" in a structure.

I suggest not to load them with rockets because we should not let the enemies scratch a Viper's skin with small-arms fire...
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I think you're right Snick. I'll just write it off my paper. Thanks Thumb
Have you just read the Wikipedia article on the F-16, our country has just ordered 16 Vipers. If this is true, most likely these are either Block 25/32 or 30. Shocked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16
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Wow... But i think that plan is still in drawing boards... We have lots of problems we are facing here, food crisis, political scandals, etc... So frustrating! Let's wait until PLAAF SU-27s make lock on PGMA's Presidential helicopter! By then for sure she'll demand for the upgrades or purchase of fast-movers for our country! Twisted Evil
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