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Heard a thing on a talk radio show today that said the USGS will, in the next 30 days, release a report giving an accurate resource assessment of the Bakken Oil Formation that covers North Dakota and portions of South Dakota and Montana. With new horizontal drilling technology it's believed that from 175 to 400 billion barrels of recoverable oil are held in this 200,000 square mile reserve that was initially discovered in 1951. Four hundred billion barrels is almost equivalent to current Saudi reserves of 260 billion plus another estimated 200 billion not yet recovered, and is way bigger than ANWR.

News article here...

This NoDak field was looked at back in the late 90's when oil was about $10 a barrel (ah....memories... Crying or Very sad

) and it was decided that the revenues from the per barrel price would not be enough to recoup the cost to go get it.

New state motto for North Dakota: "North Dakota....How D'ya Like Us Now?!" Wink

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Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 - 08:39 PM Posts: 1496

One little discussed fact about "foreign oil" is that the largest crude oil exporter to the U.S. is: Canada! Everyone thinks it's the Middle East, it's not.

That being said, yes, with the price of crude up over $100/bbl, it makes a lot of alternate sources more viable. Wish I had bought those mineral rights my uncle was hyping 5 years ago...

Forum Veteran Joined: Dec 15, 2006 - 12:28 AM Posts: 760

Long rant.

Remember that thanks to the Liberals and their war on capitalism (big business/Jews), we don't have the refinery and info structure to currently handle it. It would take years for a transition.

Just because there is oil there supposedly, doesn't mean it is cheap to get to. I suspect that is why it hasn't been tapped before.

There's still a lot of oil out there, however we have already tapped almost all of the easy oil that is cheap to get to. That's why oil will continue in general, continue to rise in price.

I feel the government mandates are making the prices and our energy situation much worse. If we made free enterprise capitalize on the situation, I suspect that they could find alternative energy sources with less shock to our systems. Unfortunately the government mandates are often in the wrong direction and are making things worse in are procrastinating real changes to meet our energy needs. The government's meddling is worsening the crisis.

I hope that someday we can find a way to harvest and distribute the methane ice on the ocean floor. There seems to be plenty of it, and it seems to be currently renewing itself at a rate that might be able to sustain our current energy usage.

If we could find a way of harvesting the methane ice it might prevent an extinction event. Methane ice is thought to purge itself during warming periods and impact events. It's possible that if we start tapping the methane ice that we might be defusing a global warming bomb that is building, that could be suddenly released during an impact event. The slow release that we did result from our industrial use would likely have a minimal impact because it happens over a long period of time which would allow the heat to dissipate better and for life to adapt, compared to the sudden surge of global warming gases that are released during a major impact.

So contrary to der Führer Al Gore's political agenda and popular opinion; using oil and methane might actually stave off a major extinction event.

Climate change is natural. I doubt Der Führer Al Gore plan would have much influence on climate change, but if we did achieve Der Führer’s goal of stopping climate change, it might be the equivalent of wiring shut a safety valve on a boiler. The methane ice in the ocean and the carbon locked in a permafrost might need to purge occasionally during a minor warming, to prevent a catastrophic warming.

The methane ice purges naturally and is largely wasted. If we could harvest the methane ice we could use it and control the purge rate, thereby we might be able to avoid a catastrophic release.

If we were to harvest significant quantities of methane ice, we also might be able to reduce the severity of the extinctions from an impact event.
Der Führer Al Gore’s math is funky. Many liberals claim that the rise in CO2 is faster than it ever has been in history. The Liberals that claim that are lying. Scientists estimate that during the Chicxulub impact event more CO2 was released than the last hundred years.

Climatology is still in its infancy. I think much of the global warming stuff is politically correct hysteria based on junk science/pseudoscience (I think it's more political agenda then science). It reminds me much of Hitler's influence on the study of race and the resulting fallout.

Der Führer Al Gore and his fascist liberal minions of self-appointed experts think they can accurately predict global warming decades in advance. Last I checked Gore was not a climatologist. Well-trained meteorologists can't even accurately predict the weather a month ahead of time, yet untrained fascist liberals and self-appointed experts think they can predict global warming accurately decades ahead of time. It would be more laughable, if this Nazi like behavior wasn't so scary. The vast majority of real scientists agree that natural warming is nothing new. Apparently Al Gore and the fascist liberals just discovered global warming and that we have limited fossil fuels. They still don't seem to understand the idea of supply and demand (capitalism).

They seem to think that capitalism is bad. They attack big business. I think “big business” is just a neo-Nazi metaphor for Jew.

We are partly in an energy crunch on again because all of hysterical environmental extremism that is very unreasonable. Politics shouldn't drive this type of technology. This type of technology should be driven by scientists and capitalism (I think it would be much more efficient and effective).

Instead the government is trying to restrict and destroy capitalism and is trying to control science.

The fascist liberals seem to have this fantasy that they recently thought up the idea of alternative fuels. The fact of the matter is that (big businessmen) Henry Ford and George Washington Carver looked into alternative fuels as part of the war effort during World War II. There was many alternatives found, but at the time they weren't very cost effective. As oil prices become higher, alternative fuels will be more competitive, though likely costly.

Another thing that is making oil more inexpensive in the US is our failing economy. The more we excessively print money to try to prop up other parts of the economy the more the dollar deflates, so foreign oil is relatively more expensive.

The fascist liberals won't let us drill new oil fields in the Gulf of Mexico (Florida coast). As a result the Chinese and Cubans are exploiting our hesitation.

Another wild assumption that the global warming nuts make is that global warming is bad. Sure some species and people and locations will lose out. However in the past global warming phases were very prosperous times for man. During previous warming phases man prospered economically, technologically, morally, crop yields rose and there was an overall reduction in disease and famine. During the cooler phases there was dark ages and Black death and such (wars, famine, disease, ect…). Many scientists believe the Black death was triggered by a cooling phase.

Our government and our people should wake up and smell the coffee.

Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 - 08:39 PM Posts: 1496

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It reminds me much of Hitler's influence on the study of race and the resulting fallout.

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I think “big business” is just a neo-Nazi metaphor for Jew.

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Der Führer Al Gore

Godwin! Thread over!

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Well-trained meteorologists can't even accurately predict the weather a month ahead of time, yet untrained fascist liberals and self-appointed experts think they can predict global warming accurately decades ahead of time

Classic straw-man argument!

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Climate change is natural

You're not a climatologist but assume you can interpret data as well or better than they can? What does that make you?

Try expressing your thoughts on the matter without using the words "führer", "facist" or "Nazi" and you won't come off as a frothing at the mouth lunatic.

I mean the tree huggers are annoying, but that doesn't make these lines of argument valid. Do you understand the irony of calling the hippie liberals fascists? It'd be like calling a neo-con a... well... tree hugging hippie.

Um..... yeah... WTF

I offer this.

Actually, make that a convoy of about 9 or 10 SUVs, and several rows of motorcycle cops, and that picture would be truer than you know.

I think with all that oil North Dakota may withdraw from the Union...........

Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 - 08:39 PM Posts: 1496

And give up the government farm subsidies? Ha!

Guysmiley wrote:

And give up the government farm subsidies? Ha!

Damn shame about those mineral rights! Wish I had bought the domain name 21st Century Fox! Think it went for $10, will have to check Mythbusters for that one Smile

It's funny to look back at the dates on threads like this and check the prices then and now.

My personal, ever so humble opinion is to drill here and now Thumb

ATFS Crash, you should be really attacking corporate fascism, not capitalism. There is nothing wrong with capitalism.

Just leave it alone!

On the other hand, the scourge of corporate fascism will be eliminated.

Also, anti-Semitism is not to be tolerated. Period.

Just because Jews are behind corporate fascist activity, doesn't mean that all Jews sponsor it behind the scenes or not.

Anyway, this would be a breakthrough to weaning off oil dependence from Saudi Arabia. Let them sell their oil to other customers, or consume it domestically.

Later on, there would be an oil rig off Malibu. More in the Gulf of Mexico.

skyhigh wrote:

Also, anti-Semitism is not to be tolerated. Period.

Just because Jews are behind corporate fascist activity, doesn't mean that all Jews sponsor it behind the scenes or not.

You might want to re-think the logic of the above statements.

We should drilll here. Theres like 12 people in N Dakota anyway...

12? I see the population is up from last year. Could be global warming.

That figure of 12 may be only during the warm month.

OL

Eh...I rounded up

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Could Saudi oil be countered by... North Dakota?