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Enthusiast Joined: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 55 Status: Offline

Not sure what you call your airplane shelters but we refer to them as a HAS and was just wondering. I'm writing specifically about the ones in Kunsan and was wondering about general specifications (i.e. height, footprint, ballistic protection capabilities, etc...)

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OleRusty wrote:

Not sure what you call your airplane shelters but we refer to them as a HAS and was just wondering. I'm writing specifically about the ones in Kunsan and was wondering about general specifications (i.e. height, footprint, ballistic protection capabilities, etc...)

Mate, not sure if that info can be provided, the blokes in the north might take notes 'bout it. I suggest you check some HAS pics and estimate general specifications.

Cheers.

Enthusiast Joined: May 16, 2006 Posts: 84 Status: Offline

Agreed.

Enthusiast Joined: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 55 Status: Offline

Probably true but I'm sure there were probably as many of them there during the building as their southern cousins. Good point, though. Now if someone could just tell me how to remove the Topic...

OleRusty wrote:

Probably true but I'm sure there were probably as many of them there during the building as their southern cousins. Good point, though. Now if someone could just tell me how to remove the Topic...

No Need to remove the topic, let's leave it to share a little.

Elite 2K Joined: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 2616 Status: Offline

Yes, there are HAS's at certain bases. Fly to just about any base in USAFE, and you'll see them. Korea too. Other than that, they aren't very common. On the subject of Hardened Aircraft Shelters, I will say that Spangdahlem has a spooky looking flight line! Shocked

HAS's= Perfect shelters for spiders dangling around. Heads up!!

HAS = "Concrete Coffin" Shocked

Small-arms fire is one thing, but a hit from a modern PGM and game-over...

In any major conflict every HAS becomes a bomb-magnet.

See how well they worked at Tallil... http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/tallil/tallil_tabe.htm

SDB anyone? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yRGVhMQiBE

AGM-130 perhaps? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3pLUki4UcA

It's eerily spooky in a HAS the first time you're in one with several other people who are a ways away and you can hear them talking as if they were right next to you. I first noticed that at the "Lik" in the HAS we used as home plate for Maintenance/Supply. I was (I thought...) alone in the Avionics section doing some paperwork one day and heard the voice of our female WRSK technician as if she were beside me. I got up, looked around, didn't see her, wandered around, and found her talking to another guy in her own "office" clear on the other side of the HAS. There was enough stuff in that has that sound couldn't have propagated straight across the HAS. It bounced off the curved roof and lost no volume or quality at all. Until I figured it out, it was a tad spooky.

That incident also made me quite leery of what I said about anybody lest people heard something I didn't want them to hear.

Enthusiast Joined: Jan 21, 2008 Posts: 55 Status: Offline

Funny, I've noticed the exact same thing in Balad's HASs

There is a room in the Capitol building in DC that does the same thing.

The largest HAS's built (13 of them, if I remember right) are the ones at RAF Alconbury in the UK. They were used for the U-2's (sorry,.... TR-1's) that were based there from around '83-'94). You can take a good look at them on GoogleMaps.

Elite 1K Joined: May 10, 2005 Posts: 1090 Status: Offline

OleRusty wrote:

Funny, I've noticed the exact same thing in Balad's HASs

The spooky part of Balad's are the patched holes in the ceilings and the shrapnel holes in the walls....good ol' 111s. Very Happy

Elite 2K Joined: Jan 14, 2004 Posts: 2616 Status: Offline

Spang's HASs make the base look like it was abandoned. So, I guess it's even more strange if you see them at Bitburg (never been there).

Being based at Torrejon I never had the opportunity to work in and around HAS's until we deployed to Aviano. As was said up above, it was kind of a strange feeling, with the echos and wierd acoustics inside. It was also like working in a dark cave, no matter how warm the days got it was always cold inside.

Soon before I arrived at TJ we lost a guy at Aviano who was on a crew opening a HAS door with a tug (as the motors were inop) which was a pretty standard practice. The door came off the track and rail and he was in the wrong spot when it hit.

Mike

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